H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid) (Page 25 of 52)

Sorta sucks for those not in the US, (me, australia), having to order Pepcid AC from the US Ebay. SEems like a lot of trouble to go through just to have a good night out :@

Does Zantac contain famo and if so is it equivalent to the amount pecid AC has?

Wonder if Pepcid is available in AUS

Well Steph,  I think your body does build a tolerance to it.  I not sure why, but in order for it to work I definitely needed to up the dosage.....at one point 3 didn't cut it, then 5, then 7, now 10 is barely working.  This is a bummer for me, but it also depends on physiology and tolerance to alcohol.  I found out this works best for me: take 10 pills (200mg) 3-4 hours on an empty stomach, THEN eat and drink.  Let the pills dissolve your stomach and do its magic in your intestines FIRST before it works on any other substance (food or alcohol).  The result is a noticable, but not terrible, glow but disappears into a light pink for the rest of the evening.  For best results....drink slowly!  Let yourself get to the light pink stage before drinking more and when you feel and see that the initial glow phase is over, then drink as much as you want.  And just to throw this out there:  Asian girls who get the glow still look helluva lot better than Asian guys....we look f'd up!  I'm sorry bro's....we definitely got the short end of the stick.  Pepcid is not a cure, but it helps, I think it would be better if there were funding for some research on this, some cure or treatment to turn this mutated gene around.  I think there will be in the future, but till then, we got to stick to what we've got.  Oh yeah, Zantac 150 sucks!  Didn't work for me (3 pills of 150mg), all it did was delay the redness....after an hour and 1 beer full on flush like I didn't take any pills at all.  Guess it worked for kyle, more power to her.  So Steph, didn't want to put you down, just giving you my experience... good luck!

damn still skeptical....... don't drink for a few months, then see what happens

yes flushie get those ones. They are a light pink/peach colour.

Hi

I am 1/2 Japanese and have not had an alcoholic drink since 1989.  The red flush, headache, nausea, rash and difficulty in breathing did not seem worth the tablespoon of wine that would set off the symptoms.  I am glad to see that there is a place to discuss this issue. 

Thank you
Tori

ok just an update on my H1/H2 combi (further to my earlier post).

It works. 

I am one of those who turn red on the first coupla sips. The Zantac Claritine combi works for me, and just reduces it to a slight pink.  A friend even commented "wow, u can drink now eh?". This may be good alternative to pepcid for those living in countries where pepcid is prescription only. I don't know if Claritine is prescription too. Zantac should be common OTC in most countries. The active product is loratadine.

Again folks, a warning to all, this combi is still subject to a pending patent. It has not yet been thru any approvals/testing from regulatory bodies.

Also, pls note that the studies showed that these blockers may not work by decreasing Acetaldehyde levels. Just stops the effect of the acetaldehyde. I.e., the toxic stuff is still running through our veins at much higher levels than "normal" people, we just don't feel the usual symptoms as much with these H1/H2 blockers.

How many of each pill did you take and how long did you wait before drinking? Did you drink on an empty stomach?

I'm curious to see if it'll work for me too. Perhaps it can be something that we can alternate with Pepcid :)

OMG OMG OMG!!! Wai, have you had hair loss that you think is cos of Pepcid?? Anyone else had excessive hairloss? What a worry.

I took your advice and looked up 'pepcid and hair loss'. Hair loss is indeed one of the possible side effects. But I haven't found any indication as to how common it is. One website said the possible side effects are:

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http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/PEP1325.HTM

Side effects cannot be anticipated.  If any develop or change in intensity, inform your doctor as soon as possible.  Only your doctor can determine if it is safe for you to continue taking Pepcid.

The most common side effect is headache.

Less common or rare side effects may include:
Abdominal discomfort, acne, agitation, altered taste, anxiety, breast development in males, changes in behavior, confusion, constipation, decreased sex drive, depression, diarrhea, difficulty sleeping, dizziness, dry mouth, dry skin, facial swelling due to fluid retention, fatigue, fever, flushing, grand mal seizures, hair loss, hallucinations, hives, impotence, irregular heartbeat, itching, loss of appetite, muscle, bone, or joint pain, nausea, pounding heartbeat, prickling, tingling, or pins and needles, rash, ringing in ears, severe allergic reaction, sleepiness, vomiting, weakness, wheezing, yellow eyes and skin
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... yellow skin, oh no ;)

The same website also lists typical dosages for different conditions. It seems that typically a doc would prescribe 40mg/day but for Excess Acid Conditions (such as Zollinger-Ellison Syndrome) they can prescribe really high dosages:

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The usual starting dose is 20 milligrams every 6 hours, although some people need a higher dose. Doses of up to 160 milligrams every 6 hours have been given in severe cases.
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I hope that the theory of 'everything in moderation' also applies to taking pepcid. I hope that if we only take pepcid 1-2x a week then we'll be ok??

oh yeah also i dont really care about getting red that much anymore i just hate the heartbeat and heavy breathing and cloudy feeling in my head.  i know thats not what drunk is supposed to feel like because drunk is supposed to feel like the way we all do in the first couple minutes after the alcohol has kicked in but before it turns into acetaldehyde, which is REALLY GOOD!!!

hey
yeah i just really hate the heartbeat and heaving breathing!! sometimes my head feels like my hearts up there beating away really fast and the heart beats on my throat.. and most of the time i just feel like total s**t and want to vomit and sleep.. how can we stop this guys

Hi guys, I live in Oz and I went to see my local GP for a script of this miracle Pepcidine (Pepcid) and you know what happened....
My doctor used a machine to check my heart and booked me in for a full blood test.....
No script lol. Oh well, have to find another means =) I didn't want to offend him and ask him outright for the script, so I hinted...but he is my family doctor, and has been since I was born. He is super ethical and I understand. So that's okay.

Anyone else in Oz that can suggest how I can get this Pepcidine? Thank you all.