Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

bump!

Anyway, Just bought a pack of regular Pepcid AC (10 mg)

After reading all 16 pages in the span of 2 days, I'd like to know some experiences of taking Pepcid after EATING.

Since most functions and parties and stuff usually have a meal involved and I'd like to know when I should be taking Pepcid if there's a meal invovled, like a cottage party or BBQ. stuff like that.

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dano.. i wanna try pepcid.. or pepzan or anything with da famo stuff in it..somebody help me b4 i dieee.. lol.. ma aunty had an angus at me because she thught i was starving myself but it wasnt.. it was actualy the weed.. i wanna stop it man..

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Hi All, after reading all 17 pages, I'm surprised no one has posted the food/dairy connection.

This is a natural solution that I discovered after trying different combos. It's worked for the last 10 years.

First, I'm 100% Asian. Second, I get the same side effects.

To beat Asian flush, do NOT eat anything dairy when drinking. Even the slightest ounce of anything dairy will make you redder than a baboon's arse.

Second, this is the worst but has always been 100% effective for me:
Don't eat anything 4 to 5 hours before you eat. 4 hours is pushing it, but 5 is ideal. I know that sucks, but the best thing to do is eat a huge breakfast and lunch if you know you'll be drinking later. For insurance, avoid dairy for the day, although for the most part you'll be fine. Just brush your teeth soon after to make sure there is no dairy in your mouth. Even that slight bit will cause redness. There are other things that may bring redness when consuming, such as certain candies that I've noticed, but I've generally been ok. If you ARE going to eat while drinking, stick to meats. For the most part, I've been ok with chicken or beef, but be careful that they don't have any dairy flavorings, sauce, marinade, etc.

Try it and you'll see. What sucks is that once you start eating after you drink, the redness will come back. At that point, you'll be done for the night, right? Probably not, but  be sure to eat later so your hangover is not as bad.


Summary for a foolproof plan: Eat heavy in the AM hours. Eat nothing (not even candy or brushing teeth) 5 hrs before drinking. Don't eat while drinking. After first few sips of alcohol or a beer (avoid mixed drinks), take eyedrops. Clear Eyes works way better than Visine. Always carry eyedrops when drinking. Eat before going to bed to lessen hangover.  Works like a charm.

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doritobreath wrote:

To beat Asian flush, do NOT eat anything dairy when drinking. Even the slightest ounce of anything dairy will make you redder than a baboon's arse.

Hi,  the avoiding dairy really works?? So does just avoiding dairy while drinking work? Or do you have to have several hrs of no diary first? Often I have a wine in the afternoon - inbetween meals and I still get the pink heat :(

I had noticed that if I have a big meal after taking pepcid, the effect of the pills is less and I go red.

And why do you take eyedrops? Is this just to avoid the glassy-eye look?

And not eating at all for 4-5 hrs prior to drinking is not really that practical. Especially if you're out for dinner and just want a couple of drinks with your food...

However this is an interesting natural solution! anyone else tried this??


Angel -- go to your doctor girl! Or if you don't want to do that, find an online US chemist that will ship you some Pepcid. Try vitasprings.com

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Steph,

If you have to eat, avoid anything with dairy. The natural solution is really more for going out, not worrying about dinner. But, if you are going to eat, avoid the dairy (all day if possible). If I am going to eath while drinking, I typically will eat Asian food such as Vietnamese, which hardly has any dairy. I've noticed the effects are much less with that type of food, sometimes non-existent - especially if you eat light. The caveat is if you eat anything and feel full (regardless of if it's dairy-free), chances are you'll get the flush. So really, if you have to eat, eat light.

Eyedrops are because my eyes always get red once I start drinking, but a few drops takes care of the whole night. I noticed red eyes with lots of Asians and non-Asians. My point is that if you have Asian flush or not, the red eye look will still make you look bad.

Oh yeah, more tips on what to eat: If you're eating Mexican, order fajitas and just eat the meat...salsa is ok too, but forget any chips that are buttery. For Italian, you're typically out of luck, due to all the dairy they use, so look for antipasta...calamari...marina sauce, steamed veggies, etc.  Avoid pizza like the plague. American: ribs, chili, barbeque type foods.

PS. I'm trying the Pepcid AC Max..one pill, 20 grams. I had lots of cheese earlier, so I'm curious as to the results. I waited about 45 minutes before I started my first beer. I'll post results later.
I'll be eating some dairy, but a light amount, just to test.

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Hi Doritobreath,

Thanks for the tips! Unfortunately I eat a lot of diary food and would find it hard to avoid, unless eating asian food.
I'll give it a go at home as a test one day. If I can do this naturally, even if only like 20% of the time, then that's all good!

Do try the Pepcid - its good. Although its not so effective for me when I drink wine. That's a bummer cos its wine that I want to drink!!

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Hi
I'm from the UK - And they no longer sell Pepcid AC - Only Pepcid 2. Does anyone know if Pepcid 2 works as good as Pepcid AC?? Or where I can buy some Pepcid AC??  Used Pepcid AC for ages and work great!
Cheers!

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Let's get back on the Pepcid AC discussion.  I've created a new forum topic for the dairy topic:
http://echeng.com/asianblush/viewforum.php?id=1

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kimmy wrote:

I'm from the UK - And they no longer sell Pepcid AC - Only Pepcid 2. Does anyone know if Pepcid 2 works as good as Pepcid AC?? Or where I can buy some Pepcid AC??  Used Pepcid AC for ages and work great!

I've just had a quick look on the pepcidtwo.co.uk site and it says that the pills contain only 10mg famo each. That means that you'll probably need 2-4 pills each time. I've never tried pepcid2 however, only generic famo pills.

Steph wrote:

find an online US chemist that will ship you some Pepcid. Try vitasprings.com

Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

I've tried experimenting more with the timing of eating and the Pepcid.  I've found that taking the Pepcid AC first (2 * 20mg), wating 40-60 minutes and then eating works best for me.  I've found that drinking at the same time as eating tends to bring on the redness.  Drinking *after* the meal seems to maximize the effectiveness.

BTW, I'm still testing out the effect of consuming dairy before drinking, but I'll post to the new forum topic Eric created.

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are you sure my doctor will let me.. im not da legal age to drink yet.. im turning 18 later so..... i dont think my doctor will let me :(... o and i cant get them on the websites because i dont have a visa n stuff like dat :(:(:(

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Angel, so you're not 18 yet... and hence no visa either. Bummer. Dunno - I doubt that your doc would prescribe drugs so that you can go out and get under-aged drunk!

try doritobreath's natural solution. Or you could just be a good girl til you're 18... Or if you have a sympathetic older cuz/sibling, see if they'd buy you some stuff online.
Sorry, I don't have any other answer for ya.

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haha yeah thats what i thought also.. hmm.. my cousins wont go through all that trouble to get me some pills so i can get drink :(... and im the oldest so no siblings can get me any.. hmm... sucks.. i just want to try the pills out... can anyone help me????????????????

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Snuffy wrote:

Drinking *after* the meal seems to maximize the effectiveness.

Effectiveness of the pepcid taking action or the effictiveness of the flush turning you red?

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Snuffy wrote:

I've tried experimenting more with the timing of eating and the Pepcid.  I've found that taking the Pepcid AC first (2 * 20mg), wating 40-60 minutes and then eating works best for me.  I've found that drinking at the same time as eating tends to bring on the redness.  Drinking *after* the meal seems to maximize the effectiveness.

BTW, I'm still testing out the effect of consuming dairy before drinking, but I'll post to the new forum topic Eric created.

Oooo...Have you ever tried eating, then taking the pills, then waiting 40 minutes and then drink?  Would the result be any better?

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I've been thinking about why we don't process the acetylaldehyde dehydrogenase fast enough, which makes us red. Is there a way to make us produce it faster? The famo slows to alcohol process to acetyaldhyde, right? (Sorry all this chemisty is way beyond me!)

I found in a round-about way this stuff called glutathione. From what I've read, it is best produced by the amino acid cysteine. Apparently this gluta thing is an antioxidant which is good for general health but also very good for the liver. Does anyone know more about this stuff and if it would help us at all? Has anyone tried it?

All you chemistry professionals out there, please let me know what you think. Cheers

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Steph wrote:

I've been thinking about why we don't process the acetylaldehyde dehydrogenase fast enough, which makes us red. Is there a way to make us produce it faster? The famo slows to alcohol process to acetyaldhyde, right? (Sorry all this chemisty is way beyond me!)

I found in a round-about way this stuff called glutathione. From what I've read, it is best produced by the amino acid cysteine. Apparently this gluta thing is an antioxidant which is good for general health but also very good for the liver. Does anyone know more about this stuff and if it would help us at all? Has anyone tried it?

All you chemistry professionals out there, please let me know what you think. Cheers

Sorry, I know nothing about it. Someone on here, one of the posts a while ago, said he had the cure for the flush, and that's it. I messaged him and asked what his cure was and he told me to drink a Red Bull before drinking and then like another one after the first or second drink. Supposidly it will speed up the breakdown of the alcohol? Apparently he's tried it and it works for him, unless he's just clowning me around.

I've yet to try it because, well, I've been too lazy to go out and buy Red Bull. Anyone wanna try this and let us know?

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unfortunately there is no solution to the food + alcohol problem.  if you eat while drinking or eat to fullness or moderate fullness less than 2-3 hrs before you drink, YOU WILL TURN RED even with pepcid!    eating with alcohol without flush is the "final frontier" that we'll just have to wait for :(   
and also, always drink plenty of water with the pepcid (per the directions)...it works much better!

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also, people who claim that pepcid decreases their tolerance are in my opinion, just experiencing a psychological or placebo effect.  if anything, it will increase your tolerance slightly.
my2sense

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and yes, good point dorito, ALWAYS DRINK WATER (or gatorade etc.) AND EAT (a sandwich work best- nothing too greasy) something before you fall sleep if you want to avoid/minimize hangovers.  do it even if you're not thirsty or hungry...it always works!
my2sense

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HELP PLEASE! I only have ONE Zantac 150mg left and I am going out to a work-related cocktail party function thing tonight. Will one be sufficient against red-faced mania? I also have 2 mylantas, will they help at all? I leave in one hour so any help will be awesome. Someone pleaaaase help :)
And no pharmacies are open so buying another pack isnt an option unfortunantly.

Thank you all so much

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Misspriss... oh dear. Does Zantac work for you?? I've tried it and it doesn't work at all. So it seems that either way you're stuffed, I'm sorry. Mylantas would only help if you get the nausea that some people here get. I'm guessing that you've left already. Oh well.... my only advice is to pack on the makeup and stand in the shadows.

Does anyone know how to get past that 1st drink redness, even with Pepcid? Even after my pills I get a bit red with the 1st drink. If I drink it really slowly, its ok. After about an hour of that 1st drink, my face has cooled down and I can drink away happily. But... often I only want one drink anyway, anyone have any hints?

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Steph wrote:

Misspriss... oh dear. Does Zantac work for you?? I've tried it and it doesn't work at all. So it seems that either way you're stuffed, I'm sorry. Mylantas would only help if you get the nausea that some people here get. I'm guessing that you've left already. Oh well.... my only advice is to pack on the makeup and stand in the shadows.

Does anyone know how to get past that 1st drink redness, even with Pepcid? Even after my pills I get a bit red with the 1st drink. If I drink it really slowly, its ok. After about an hour of that 1st drink, my face has cooled down and I can drink away happily. But... often I only want one drink anyway, anyone have any hints?

try increasing your dosage

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Just came home from drinkin. Took 3 x 20MG pepcids. After my first drink (double capt. and coke), I was fine until like 10 mins later. Then I started heating up. No one said anything about my face or anything so I dunno. My face felt warm as hell though for like 10 mins. Then it went away and I was fine.

I ate at about 530pm, took 3 pills at around 830pm with a half a liter of water, started drinking at like 10.

I dunno. I hate having to keep eating pills to drink. It makes it not even worth it sometimes.

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I agree taking pills just to drink doesn't really make it worth it.  But I'm 20 and don't want this stupid defect to ruin my social life...especially at this tender prime age.  I mean, how would you explain it to your date???  You wouldnt be able to do anything fun with him/her..unless s/he suffered the same.  lol