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HEALTH RISKS?
A lot of people here talk about receiving the pepcid tablets from a doctor rather than over the counter.
Many people in the posts have also been asking about the health risks with taking pepcid ac frequently, at the same time as consuming alcohol.
Someone must have asked a doctor a question on this when trying to get the tablets.
AND DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ANSWER?
Thanks, Chris

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To Chris, in answer to your question about the health risks involved. I was like you very conscious of this issue and went to the doctors to check it out. My Australian doc had never heard of this asian flush thing of course, but he was interested to learn and from his research he said people have taken up to 800mg a day for a year and had no side effects, that was 5 years ago, so any long term effects have not realy been nailed out. He also said that beacuse im only using pepcid once a week that that was ok. I was also worried about having to take 120mg of pepcid to completely remove the redness, but he said thats ok. Just dont abuse the stuff...so anyway thats my experience...

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Well justed wanted to post something that I haven't seen anyone post before. It might sound bad but it came from my own past experiences. I myself am Vietnamese but seem like im the only Vietnamese with the Asian Flush. What I wanted to post was that when I took ECSTASY, I could drink like a normal person. I mean I didn't get red,no sped up heartrate, no symptoms of asian flush. It was the first time where I actually felt like I was drinking. Through my past experiences, everytime Ive taken ecstasy I would be able to drink normally. Maybe someone can figure out  what ingredient  in ecstasy pills that helped taken away the asian flush. The only problem is you feel the after effects of the ecstacy pill after all the alcohol has been digested. I don't want people to try this but maybe get an idea what possibly could be the reason why estacy cured my asian flush?

PS: Don't try this just because I said it worked. I was a dumbass teenager when I did this. I'm grown up and I don't do drugs anymore

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Ben wrote:

Well justed wanted to post something that I haven't seen anyone post before. It might sound bad but it came from my own past experiences. I myself am Vietnamese but seem like im the only Vietnamese with the Asian Flush. What I wanted to post was that when I took ECSTASY, I could drink like a normal person. I mean I didn't get red,no sped up heartrate, no symptoms of asian flush. It was the first time where I actually felt like I was drinking. Through my past experiences, everytime Ive taken ecstasy I would be able to drink normally. Maybe someone can figure out  what ingredient  in ecstasy pills that helped taken away the asian flush. The only problem is you feel the after effects of the ecstacy pill after all the alcohol has been digested. I don't want people to try this but maybe get an idea what possibly could be the reason why estacy cured my asian flush?

PS: Don't try this just because I said it worked. I was a dumbass teenager when I did this. I'm grown up and I don't do drugs anymore

I am also Vietnamese. It's interesting to hear that Ecstasy can remove the asian flush symptons.
May I ask what kind of ecstasy you took? Maybe you could have been hallusinating when you have been drinking. just a theory :)
But you can tell me what kind of ecstasy you took, I can find out the exactly working ingredient.

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Jay wrote:

Took one Max Pepcid AC one hour before drinking my first beer on an empty stomach. Was doing great to about my 3rd or 4th beer when my face started turning red as usual. Wonder if its because I ate too much. Although it only lasts about an hour and then went away. Heart rate was slightly fast but thats normal with any alcohol. Im gonna try 2 next time and take it 30 minutes before and see what happends.

I discovered after eating a big meal while drinking while taking a pepcid 20 I still get red. Eating must increase your histamines. But if I just have a few appetizers Im fine. I took one Pepcid max last night 1 hour before going to the bar. I must of drank about 10 beers and a few shots of jager and never turned red. Although at one point I felt red I wasnt. Been using since December with excellent results. I am not asian.

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I am also Vietnamese. It's interesting to hear that Ecstasy can remove the asian flush symptons.
May I ask what kind of ecstasy you took? Maybe you could have been hallusinating when you have been drinking. just a theory :)
But you can tell me what kind of ecstasy you took, I can find out the exactly working ingredient.

I don't know what they are called. The all had differnt names and differnt feelings but all worked the same. I can drink with no flush or symptons at all. So I feel the estascy pill and feel drunk from the alcohol at the same time. I'm sure I wasn't hallucination but I remember some names . Blue Dolphin and Heaven's Gate? something like that

Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Hey, guys. I had to restrict replies to registered users only due to some spamming of the forums.

Do I need to close this topic and start a new one? We're up to 375 messages here. :)

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Personally, I'm quite happy to keep this forum open. It seems to be the main discussion point for everyone.

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HEY HEYY!!! wats UP!!!!! aiite.. i get dis asian blush stuff and it aint cool at all u kno wat i meen!!!! i got dis stuff called ZANTAC does it work n when do i use it n shud i eat blah blah blah can some body tell me everything!!!! n wat type of alkahol 2 not drink n wat 2 drink.. i jst wanna get dis red stuff gne n stop da vomiting n bad headches!!.. i drink 2 have fun n socialize not 2 get down n dirrty wid peopl! because i smoke alot of DAK n dat aint good at all.... so i wud like 2 drink insted.. betta for me i guess.. well betta dan weed anyways!!! so ANY1 n i meen ANY1 jst giv me a holla asap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

much love people
xoxo

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Bryan wrote:

Hi!

I have the solution for the asian flush. I don't get red at all, but feel some minor headache.
I can drink 4 six packs, before getting drunk. after 12 beers I feel a little migraine(headache). but 6 more gets me feeling better.
then 6 more, I get the headache again.

so, what's your solution?

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echeng wrote:

Hey, guys. I had to restrict replies to registered users only due to some spamming of the forums.

Do I need to close this topic and start a new one? We're up to 375 messages here. :)

I don't think you necessarily have to close it down.  With requiring people to register, that should definitely cut down on the spam. 

BTW, does anyone have a clue what "angel" posted?  LOL ;-)

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Alrighty then. We'll keep this topic open. Sorry about the required registration thing, but I hate spam almost as much as I do turning red when I drink. :)

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angel wrote:

i jst wanna get dis red stuff gne n stop da vomiting n bad headches!!.. i drink 2 have fun n socialize not 2 get down n dirrty wid peopl! because i smoke alot of DAK n dat aint good at all.... so i wud like 2 drink insted.. betta for me i guess.. well betta dan weed anyways!!!

werd.

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echeng wrote:
angel wrote:

i jst wanna get dis red stuff gne n stop da vomiting n bad headches!!.. i drink 2 have fun n socialize not 2 get down n dirrty wid peopl! because i smoke alot of DAK n dat aint good at all.... so i wud like 2 drink insted.. betta for me i guess.. well betta dan weed anyways!!!

werd.

I think our wee Angel is only a young thing. It took me like 3x longer to read her msg than it should have. But I think she's asking us if Zantac works... I've found that famotidine products work the best -- ie Pepcid or generic famo. And a friend of mine takes Gaviscon for the vomiting (I'm "lucky" I only get the tomato red face, not the vomiting or itchy crotch or anything like that!!)

And judging from Angel's post, smoking too much weed is hazardous to your spelling! ;)

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LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..

btw.. smoking weed does make you stoopid :P

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angel wrote:

LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..

btw.. smoking weed does make you stoopid :P

Angel, relaaaaaaaaxxx, slow down and enjoy the ride a bit.  ;-)

Seriously though, I've found that 2 Pepcid ACs (20mg each) taken with a full glass of water about 45-60 minutes before drinking works best.  I've found that if you want a *long* time after taking them (1.5 hours or more) tends to make my stomach ache just a bit.  Nothing terrible, but like I'm really, really hungry.

I'm still experimenting with eating first, not eating at all, and eating with the first few drinks.  More careful observation needed there.

I've also found that Zantac 150 doesn't work as well as Pepcid AC Max Strength.  Granted, this is just *my personal* experience.  I've been reading this forum since Eric started it a long time ago and see that different things seem to work for different people.  Overall though, I think the H2 blockers definitely work.  They don't *completely* eliminate the symptoms, but they do make it "livable".  The most significant thing is that they all seem to greatly reduce the rapid heartbeat, dizziness, and general "sick" feeling most of us get when drinking.  Still some redness, but it seems most can at least enjoy a few drinks without feeling like you'd rather be dead!

Hope that helps!

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Snuffy wrote:
angel wrote:

LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..

btw.. smoking weed does make you stoopid :P

Angel, relaaaaaaaaxxx, slow down and enjoy the ride a bit.  ;-)

Seriously though, I've found that 2 Pepcid ACs (20mg each) taken with a full glass of water about 45-60 minutes before drinking works best.  I've found that if you want a *long* time after taking them (1.5 hours or more) tends to make my stomach ache just a bit.  Nothing terrible, but like I'm really, really hungry.

I'm still experimenting with eating first, not eating at all, and eating with the first few drinks.  More careful observation needed there.

I've also found that Zantac 150 doesn't work as well as Pepcid AC Max Strength.  Granted, this is just *my personal* experience.  I've been reading this forum since Eric started it a long time ago and see that different things seem to work for different people.  Overall though, I think the H2 blockers definitely work.  They don't *completely* eliminate the symptoms, but they do make it "livable".  The most significant thing is that they all seem to greatly reduce the rapid heartbeat, dizziness, and general "sick" feeling most of us get when drinking.  Still some redness, but it seems most can at least enjoy a few drinks without feeling like you'd rather be dead!

Hope that helps!

Sorry, meant to say if you *wait* a long time, not want.

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Snuffy wrote:
angel wrote:

LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..

btw.. smoking weed does make you stoopid :P

Angel, relaaaaaaaaxxx, slow down and enjoy the ride a bit.  ;-)

Seriously though, I've found that 2 Pepcid ACs (20mg each) taken with a full glass of water about 45-60 minutes before drinking works best.  I've found that if you want a *long* time after taking them (1.5 hours or more) tends to make my stomach ache just a bit.  Nothing terrible, but like I'm really, really hungry.

I'm still experimenting with eating first, not eating at all, and eating with the first few drinks.  More careful observation needed there.

I've also found that Zantac 150 doesn't work as well as Pepcid AC Max Strength.  Granted, this is just *my personal* experience.  I've been reading this forum since Eric started it a long time ago and see that different things seem to work for different people.  Overall though, I think the H2 blockers definitely work.  They don't *completely* eliminate the symptoms, but they do make it "livable".  The most significant thing is that they all seem to greatly reduce the rapid heartbeat, dizziness, and general "sick" feeling most of us get when drinking.  Still some redness, but it seems most can at least enjoy a few drinks without feeling like you'd rather be dead!

Hope that helps!

Yeah. I've found that drinking a lot of water while first taking the Pepcid helps it break down and take effect better. I find that eating on an empty stomach, or eating BEFORE you take the pills works best. There was this one time where I ate 2 pepcid and ate a hamburger and fries about an hour into drinking and I started to feel heated and sensed my face was red. I think eating takes away the effects of the famo. I dunno though, even when I do turn a little pink or a little red when I eat the pepcid, it only lasts for about 10 minutes if even, then goes away and I feel great (normal).

So all in all, I agree 2 Pepcids about a half hour or an hour before with a bottle/glass of water works well with this flush.

keep the stories coming people!

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angel wrote:

LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..

Hey Angel, take it from the rest of us on this forum - try the Pepcid Max at least 1 hour before drinking, on an empty stomach. Then you can drink like a fish for the night and turn into a giggly, flirty drunk like the rest of us ;)

From my own experience, I need 2 or 3 20mg pills for it to work. I would suggest that you start with just 20mg and see if that's enough for you. Its not good to pump ourselves full of drugs,you see! It may take you a few goes to see how many pills you need for it to work.

I need to wait around 1.5-2 hours before the pill works properly. But unlike Jasko, I don't get the funny tummy if I wait that long.

Would love to hear how you get on :)

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hey hey.. im from nz.. das new zealand.. lol.. um.. does anyone know how to get them from here??? i went to the chemist and they gave me zantac.. which oviouslly didnt work well lol.. so yeah.. does anyone have hotmail?? so i cant like discuss this with you.. ya know lol.. it will be.. fun :D
i am so keen to drink by the way lol

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Angel, Angel, Angel - so you're a fellow kiwi eh? I'd die if you turn out to be my cuzzie or something. You know, all us locals are related! (assuming that you are a local, that is)  ;)

Anyway, go to your doctor. That's the only way to get a good supply of famo. They've discontinued Pepzan here. My doc was more than happy to prescribe me 90 tabs of 20mg.

Why can't you talk to us online?? Waddaya wanna say??

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watchu meen a local??? local of wat??? lol...
danno f ma doctor will let me tho.. do you recon they will???
i never said that i didnt want to talk online.. it only because it takes so long for some1 to reply back f u get what i mean.. haha but im not 2 worried bout it..
wait... u from new zealand 2???? omg hahaha it would be so crack up if you wher my cuzzie.. i bet u arent tho...

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Hi all,
I'm from the UK and they don't sell Pepcid AC over here.  There is Pepcid Two and i read that some people from the UK have tried using that instead.
Can anyone from the UK let me know if Pepcid Two works as well as Pepcid AC??
Otherwise i'll have to mail order myself some of this Pepcid AC stuff and see if it really works!

Cheers all.

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Ang, Try asking your doc for some famotidine. I asked mine for some and he was busy writing out the script while I was trying to justify myself. It seemed that he had no problem at all with me taking the stuff. So... try it, what's the worst that could happen - your doc says no. No biggie. And anyway, it's really cheap through the doc. I mean if you have to spend $50 to see the doc anyway - it cost me something like $16 for 90tabs of 20mg. Much cheaper than getting branded Famo! I figure its even better getting it through your doc so then he knows what pills you're taking and would say something if he thinks you are taking too many drugs. Oh hang on, you're a pot-head, perhaps you should tell him about that too! ;)

Piewhack -have a look at how many mg of famotidine the Pepcid Two has. Most people seem to take 20-40mg each time. Its the famo that works the magic, so its just a matter of how many pills you'll need to take to make it effective for you.

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lol :P:P wat f u help me insted???????????????????