326 Reply by Snuffy

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

bob wrote:
Natifus wrote:

There is a acetaldehyde dehyrdogenase enzyme pill(the pill wih the enzyme you need). The problem concerned with the pill is it can cause rapid blindness.  Speaking of pills some of you brought up the issue about "How they could have a pill that causes Asian Flush, but not have a pill to cure it."  The answer! The pill was made by accident in the 1940's, while scientist were trying to cure diseases.  To be honest there is no drug in the U.S. that can cure Asian Flush without very vicious side effects.

  Your best shot as of now (As in today), is RU-21 aka the hangover pill.  Order you RU-21 at http://www.911healthshop.com/ru21.html its cheap at that website. What I suggest you try for a self-experiment:Have a healthy intake of your B vitamns(the fruits, chicken, etc..), and give yourself about 30minutes to digest. Take the RU-21 pills, and start drinking. Because RU-21 is a "pill", it has a coated layer of chemical which dosn't desolve instantly. So some time maybe be needed to allow the pill to work.  All this preparation should take about 30min. It beats the 1-3 hour pre-drink meathod right.  If it does work for you, I suggest trying to do this process in less time. To test your time limit.

i'm sorry but your very wrong here. Ru21 or cheerz does not work at all for the flush, it doesn't do anything, it's just a multi vitamin. been tried and tested, and i'm sure anyone with the flush will tell you the same.

You're correct Bob.  Both RU-21 and Cheerz have been discussed in *numerous* posts to these forum and I'd say the general concensus is that they simply do not work.  Is it just me or do others think Natifus seems to pass himself off as an expert on stuff he really doesn't seem to have a good handle on?  I'm just a bit suspicious.

327 Reply by Natifus

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I actually don't have "Asian Flush,"  it's hard for me to assume an accurate solution. So if you could state what works and wont dosen't work in one post. Recurrence of failed theories won't occur. All I ask is your voice, nothing more.

328 Reply by Steph

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I agree with Snuffy - I've read most of the posts on this forum and lots of people have said that Natifus doesn't really know what he's talking about. I'm no expert in this matter myself, but I would certainly not try to pass myself off as an expert in this area by trying to impress us with his pseudo-scientific babble.

Personally, I ignore everything that he says... I mean what kind of scientist can he be when his spelling and grammar aren't even up to scratch?!

329 Reply by question

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Natifus- why does the ALDH2 supplement cause blindness?  is there more info on it?

330 Reply by bob

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Natifus wrote:

I actually don't have "Asian Flush,"  it's hard for me to assume an accurate solution. So if you could state what works and wont dosen't work in one post. Recurrence of failed theories won't occur. All I ask is your voice, nothing more.

the pre drink or the h2 blockers works against Asian Flush- although you should only take pepcid/ famotidine and not other H2 blockers such as zantac (but being the scientest that you are, you should know the reason for this right?) :)

331 Reply by Dragoon

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Hey, i have a question, there is no doubt that i have the asian blush and it seems to me that the pepcid AC works for MOST of my symptoms but there are also some other problems that i have with drinking as well and i want u guys to put some input on this. its given that i turn really really read and my heart pounds fast and hard once i drink, and pepcid ac helps with that, but does it also help with the headache i get and i also tend to throw up everytime i drink, i mean EVERYTIME it doesnt matter if its 2 shots or 1 beer i still have this feeling of wanting to throw up so can anyone give me advice of how to stop that?

332 Reply by Arf

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i find that if i have anythign to eat relatively close to the time i drink, i puke all the food up.. so i try to eat at least 2 hours before i drink.  headaches only come after i'm drunk

333 Reply by Steph

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to Dragoon:

A friend of mine (non-asian, non-asian flush sufferer) had the same problem with the puking when drinking. She now takes Gaviscon when she drinks and it works well for her.

334 Reply by Sarah

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It's been awhile since anyone has posted on this but I'm totally curious.....I'm actually a redheaded irish/scottish/english/german/american mutt.  I get the flush too after like half a drink, not all the time, but I get VERY drunk very quickly.  That is WAY more embarrassing than any red face!

Worst part is I'm in sales, so a few drinks from time to time is part of the business. 

I have a relatively low body fat percentage, I'm in good shape, but there was major alcoholism in my family, although not my parents.

I've been researching and researching why I get drunk so freaking fast, but this seems like a odd thing.  Anyone out there at all with the same problem?!?!

335 Reply by Bryan

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Just curious ....Ive seen some generic pills with 10 mg of famotidine in it.  Simple acid reducers that are much much cheaper.  Do you guys think it will work the same?  Pepcid is expensive as heck.

336 Reply by Steph

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Bryan, I believe that its the famotidine that does the trick. I can't buy pepcid here so have been getting generic famo from my pharmacy and it works.

Those other types of acid reducers like rantidine, cine-something-idine and whatever else they're called don't work on me or others so it seems.

Sarah, try the ol' famotidine/pepzan thing - it may work for you too! Start with 20mg 2 hrs before drinking, on an empty stomach. (just my opinion from personal experience on what works, not to be taken as medical advice!!)

337 Reply by Dragoon

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Ty soo much im ganna try that out and ill let u how it goes

338 Reply by All Smiles

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I am 40 years old and have suffered from Asian flush since I can remember.  I could only drink 1/2 a beer or 1/4 glass of wine or 1/2 a cocktail and the redness would set in 95% of the time.  And if I was drinking outside in the sun, the effects would increase 10-fold - I would be beet red in minutes.  This problem made it so difficult to drink socially because people were always staring or making fun of you!  I have to say finding this forum has been the best thing!  After reading all the comments about using Pepcid, I decided to give it a try.  I purchased the Costco (generic) brand of Pepcid (regular/not maximum strength) because it was 1/2 the price and had more pills.  I take one pill about 30-40 minutes before drinking, and I swear it works!  So far I have tested it on at least 5 different occasions, and it has worked every time!  On each occasion I had 2-3 drinks - I only felt a little warm on the one occasion I started drinking before the 30 minute wait time.  If you are a social drinker and suffer from Asian flush, you must try this!!  This is truly one of those life changing/profound moments for me personally - and one doesn't typically get many of those in life!

339 Reply by Gee

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Does anyone experince the effects of asian flush the morning after a night of partying when you eat? It seems like I have to wait at least 9 hours after drinking before I can eat or the redness will com on in  big way! So I can't eat breakfast after a hard night of drinking.

340 Reply by Jin

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Yeah, it's happened to me before.  If i go really hard and drink excessively, i will still be red in the morning.   It's only happaned a couple of times.

341 Reply by Cosmicbboy

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Sometimes I get pretty busy and don't get much sleep, and when I start drinking I have no Flush symptoms what so ever.  Pepcid AC works, but I hate screwing my body up. I remember that one dude said Lemon, and citrus stuff works. I'll try it sometime, its a pain in the hass having to prep myself everytime Im going out to drink. hummmmmm. I tried some weird stuff like couple years ago, where I went to the gym and worked out my legs only. I seemed to work, maybe because the blood rushed to my legs? I don't know. I think I might try some weird stuff again and hope for the best.

342 Reply by purple face

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A friend of mine told me about the Pepcid AC thing today and I was to say the least VERY SKEPTICAL. My usual alcohol experience involves me drinking about half a beer and getting a deep dark red, followed by nausia, headache, and hypersensitivity to hot and cold. Recently, I was drinking top shelf vodka, (GREY GOOSE) and I noticed that my usual unpleasant buzz was actually quite pleasant. I still got red but not to the point of being beet red. In conclusion, I will try this pepcid ac miracle as you all say and drink grey goose vodka. Does anyone know whether or not certain drinks are usually worse for "asian blush"?

343 Reply by redface

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purple face wrote:

A friend of mine told me about the Pepcid AC thing today and I was to say the least VERY SKEPTICAL. My usual alcohol experience involves me drinking about half a beer and getting a deep dark red, followed by nausia, headache, and hypersensitivity to hot and cold. Recently, I was drinking top shelf vodka, (GREY GOOSE) and I noticed that my usual unpleasant buzz was actually quite pleasant. I still got red but not to the point of being beet red. In conclusion, I will try this pepcid ac miracle as you all say and drink grey goose vodka. Does anyone know whether or not certain drinks are usually worse for "asian blush"?

it seems that darker beers and better quality alcohol reduces the red and atleast headaches for me. say NO to well alcohol and YES to top shelf stuff. its worth the extra $$$ gLUCK!

344 Reply by AlcoholicAu

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Hi.  After reading this thread I decided to give this "urban myth" a shot.  You cannot get antacids with themodine over the counter in australia.  Must be done with a prescription (which makes me question how safe is it to use on a regular basis?).  So I tried the next best thing.........Zantac.  Now I've read how some people have had different results with Zantac so I was a bit sceptical.  Anyhow, took 1 tablet 1 hr before my usual friday night binge.........  waited for my face to go red all night but it never did!  haha.  Now I'm not sure if this was coincidence with the 1% of the time when my face doesn't turn red, or whether Zantac actually works.  Futhermore, the next day I felt fine....no flushing which I usually get after a big friday night.

I'm gonna give this a few more tries before I will conclusively say it works.  Will keeps yas posted.

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

I've been doing the Pepcid thing for quite some time.  Without it, I turn beet red.

What works best for me is to take 60mg on an empty stomach about two hours prior to drinking.  Taking an additional one to two pills directly before that first beer seems to also help.

I've noticed however that the pepcid is less effective if I eat and consume alcohol at the same time.  I believe other posters relate similar experiences.  The odd thing is, I've noticed that I can eat a lot of pizza while drinking and I don't turn red.  I've done this several times.  Has anyone else had the same experience?  Is there something about tomato sauce?  Just curious.

346 Reply by CosmicBBoy

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Never tried pizza and drinking.  Infact I don't get hungry when I drink, I just want to drink more. I'll remember if I get hungry to eat pizza.  I tried that Medori sours before and it made my flush worse so I don't know if the lime thing works. I better try eating couple lemons and drinking Grey Goose.

347 Reply by dorkomatic

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OMG -- this thread is still going --

Bottomline: h2 blockers, yes -- but don't eat before, during, or after for a period of time because it inhibits absorption of the drug. Alcohol is metabolized in your liver you red-faced boneheads -- so all the drinks and pills that you take to "break down the acetaldehyde" in your stomach are BS. Stick with the h2 blockers -- you'll be chuckling and stumbling around like a sht-faced bonehead in no time.

348 Reply by kole

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It's about time!

I'm mixed, chinese native american, and white..

I've been drinking for 15 years, and actually work for an alcohol company and give away complimentry drinks at bars/clubs, and of course get drunk while doing so.......and would look sunburnt after 20 mins of drinks....wine, beer, or liquor...forget merlot.

Breathing problems, looking sunburnt, while my co-workers/friends would still be looking hot, I looked like I retuned from Jamaica.

I JUST found out about the Pepcid AC trick! I first tried Tagmet HB-didn't work. The Pepcid AC (extra strength, and I took 2 for good measure) is a miracle.

I drank 10 martinis last weekend, and still looked great at last call.

Thanks and much love to my asian homegirls that got me hip to this.

I did get a bad headache and upset stomach from drinking,along w/sleeplessness, but at least I wasn't red!

349 Reply by Q.T pie

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ive been reading this site for quite sumtime.. and i have had few blushed face experiences prior to discovering pepcid..my first  experience was when i took 2 pepcid AC 20mg (pepcidine coz im from AUS) pills on my 18th bday last yr and it reli worked ey .. there was only slight blush not that noticeable.. but the next day i felt a few 'bowel movements' lol. - i realise that i had dinner probably 1.5hrs before i started drinking in the club and i took the pills after i ate. (im a little girl lol thats 155cms and 44kgs btw)

however on australia day i took some pills 1.5hrs  prior to EATING McDONALDS for dinner(ew gross) then drank ~1hr after eating... i drank about 6 skyy premixed vodka drinks.. but my stomach felt so bad and i threw up few hours later *cries* it was quite hot and i think that made me feel worse.

so anyways now i usually keep some pills in my wallet incase some spontaneous drinking arises but last night i switched wallets and went out for my friends bday and thought to myself wot the heck.. and i drank 1 shot shit vodka, 2 vodka and lemonade drinks my friends made WITHOUT any pepcid.. and i could feel my stomach get ill and my face went bit blushed and my chest was slightly blotchy.. nothing happened tho.. like i didnt throw up or anything (lucky for that) but i sobered up quite quickly..

so after reading other posts ive decided im going to take gaviscon AND pepcid because my stomach just feels weird immediately when i drink and if i get that feeling too much i'll throw up later on. and pepcid to minimise the flush ..

ok i'll re-post later wen i try this out... also when i go out i usually eat then drink.. but you guys say that eating minimalises the effects of the drug.. so when is the best time to eat? coz i gotta EAT!

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Bob wrote:

Another poster recommended looking up a product called Cheerz.  It's a anti hangover pill that could help for asians.  Look it up on the Net.  I think i may order some just to try it out. www.reboundhangover.com/

I just ordered Cheerz and it didn't do much for me. I took 2 pills and waited half an hour before trying to drink a small glass of white wine. I took a sip and there was no redness. Then I took another sip and still no redness so I thought maybe this stuff does work. By the 6th sip, I started to feel my face getting hot and the redness was starting to show. Then my heartbeat started incresing. I tried taking another pill to see if it would help, but it didnt. I ended up taking 4 pills that night and couldn't even get through one small glass. Then I tried it again on another night, but this time drinking a mixed drink with vodka. After 2 sips, my face started getting red and again the increased heartbeat so I just stopped before I got sick. I dont know about the liquid Cheerz because they only sell it in large quantites for almost $100. Thats too much money for me to spend just to see if it works. But if anyone has tried the liquid Cheerz, please post to let me know if it works. Going to try Pepid AC sometime this week.