• Registered: 2012-03-02
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

flush 26 wrote:

Hi I've been taking pepcid ac 40mg for about 5 years now ,generally one 40mg tablet on a saturday night before drinking. I've noticed that 30 min after taking the tablet,when its absorbed and I've only had one 355ml beer,it seems to block/slowen my memory ability,almost like memory loss, for example you cant remember some peoples names as well relative to when your not taking pepcid. This occurs almost immediately when u are not even drunk yet. However by the next day or day after your memory returns to normal. So my question is does anyone else experience something similar memory loss like side effects?

Yeah right, and Pepcid also causes Alzheimers, Lou Gehrigs Disease, Herpes, mono, and Lyme disease too.  Reading this thread makes me realize why white people think Asians are so physically weak.  Pathetic.

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Guida33 wrote:

Hello everyone,

first of all, I'd like to say I feel very relieved to have found this small community. Asian Flush is a real burden in social circumstances, so I hope we will find a way to get rid of it sometimes soon.

I am a white "causasian" with blond hair, and  yet suffering from AF. Actually my mother is vietnamese, but no-one could tell at first sight. This makes it worse I think, because people are not used to see "white people" flushing so much when drinking.

I started getting drunk with friends at the age of 16, and always experienced the flushing. After one single drink my face and neck will turn bright red, my eyes will be sleepy, I feel warm and my heart beats fast. In the past I didn't really care about it and continued drinking at least once a week. But now that I grew old, it is getting more and more difficult to accept it.

After some research on the internet, I have tried many of the "tricks" mentioned in this forum. My conclusion is that some of them DO WORK, but not are not 100% effective (residual redness), and do not ALWAYS work. Here are the few things that are true to me :
- drinking slowly is very important
- eating several hours before the first drink, or not eating at all
- taking a dump before drinking (im serious!)
- rather drinking vodka and energy drinks (redbull contains niacin!)
- taking zantac 1-2 hours before drinking
- avoid sitting too long or remain too passive
- avoid crowded space
- taking aspirin
- using skincare cream
- have a long sleep the night before

- drinking slowly is very important -- SORT OF.  BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BABY YOUR DRINKS ALL NITE, JUST MAYBE THE FIRST DRINK.
- eating several hours before the first drink, or not eating at all --  EXCELLENT ADVICE. SEE MY POST HERE REGARDING EATING echeng.com/asianblush/viewtopic.php?id=29
- taking a dump before drinking (im serious!) -- ALWAYS GOOD TO TAKE A DUMP!
- rather drinking vodka and energy drinks (redbull contains niacin!) - YES.  DRINK A QUALITY VODKA LIKE GREY GOOSE WITH RED BULL. AVOID BEER!
- taking zantac 1-2 hours before drinking --  DOES ZANTAC WORK AFTER 2 HOURS???  PEPCID AC MAX WORKS BEST AFTER 40-45 MINUTES.  WHAT ARE THE OPTIMAL CONDITIONS FOR TAKING ZANTAC?
- avoid sitting too long or remain too passive - YES.  EXCELLENT ADVICE.
- avoid crowded space - IRRELEVANT.  MAYBE YOU'RE JUST BEING SOCIALLY NERVOUS ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL FLUSH?
- taking aspirin -- NOT SURE.  I TAKE 2 ADVIL WITH PEPCID AND IT HAS NO EFFECT, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.
- using skincare cream -- HIGHLY DUBIOUS.
- have a long sleep the night before -- CAN'T ARGUE WITH A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP, BUT I'VE HAD GOOD RESULTS WITH LITTLE REST AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, LITTLE FOOD.

1,103 Reply by no_more_glow (edited by no_more_glow 2012-03-02 20:51:54)

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

canasianone wrote:

I am new to the boards and just want to see if anyone had the same problems as me.  I took Pepcid AC a ton in college.  I went out about 3 nights a week and took it every one of those days.  After a while I noticed that Pepcid AC stopped working as well.  I was pretty consistent about it too, always taking it 45 minutes before drinking too.  I decided to double the dosage whenever I went out and that started working again.  A few weeks later though that dosage stopped working as well.  I even tried 3 or 4 pills and they did nothing.  I also noticed that if I forgot to take Pepcid before drinking, my tolerance would be cut in half and I would get sick much much easier.  Needless to say, I have since stopped taking Pepcid AC altogether as I was beginning to get worried about my health.  I was taking extra-strength Pepcid and taking 4 of those at one time simply can't be good for you.  At about this time too, I started becoming lactose intolerant.  I used to be fine drinking glasses and glasses of milk but now I could no longer.  I would get stomach and intestinal pains on top of other things.  I asked my really intelligent med school buddy if there could be a connection and he said it was a possibility. 

I am basically asking two questions:

1.  Can habitually taking Pepcid AC before drinking make your body dependent on Pepcid AC to process alcohol?

2.  Can taking too much Pepcid AC make you lactose intolerant?

FYI my solution now has been to pre-game earlier as I find that after an hour or so my flush will be reduced enough to the point where I am willing to go out.

Physically you're too weak.  You need to quit alcohol.

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Wai wrote:

does anyone still feel hot when they drink on it?

Yes.  If you do the Pepcid AC method properly, you will still feel the facial heat, but no redness.  Only a very slight pink hue around the eyes and cheek (esp. if you have a chubby face with a lot of fat) and sometimes a slight glossiness and mild red-eyes.  Use a little Visine AC after your first drink and no one will even notice.

1,105 Reply by glenb

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

I'd just like to say to all people out there, don't be trapped into buy the No Red Face Formula, for starters it says no need for antacids or pills anymore. But one of the main steps is taking Pepcid AC?? Then you try get your money back with the "Money back gaurantee" with no reply. Don't be fooled people :)

1,106 Reply by CUmbach

  • Registered: 2012-04-08
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Business Venture Opportunity
I'm a biochemist that has been working for over 3 years to discover a viable business opportunity to create a cure for this affliction.  Unfortunately for all of you out there, it doesn't seem like Convivia will ever be an option in a country such as ours with such strict regulations (as well as Japan and China) because the mechanism of action of 4-methylpyrazole, originally used to treat methanol poisoning, is just too dangerous to be taken regularly or sold over the counter. I am also well aware of the misinformation coming from Cheerz and NoRedFaceFormula, which seem to have little to no effect in treating alcohol flush reaction. Finally, Pepcid AC, which seems to be the general go-to cure for most people, most likely blocks the histamine (redness) response but does nothing to reduce acetaldehyde levels, resulting in a greatly increased risk of cancer and liver cirrhosis.
I believe that I have found a potential cure, based both on anecdotal evidence from this forum and personal research, that will prove to cure both the symptoms of Asian glow. I have developed a formulation, based largely on H2 antagonists (blockers) as well as antioxidants which target and neutralize acetaldehyde while protecting the stomach.
I am currently working with the former CFO of Pfizer, Canada, as well as an American teacher in Japan to develop this business, but require someone with an entrepreneurial spirit and experience in the pharmaceutical industry, preferably regulatory experience. Anyone with a PHD or MS in biochemistry or a related field should also contact me at chrisumbach@gmail.com

PS: ECheng - I contacted you via email several times regarding this venture. If you want an effective and harmless cure for this ailment, please help me to recruit for this new venture.

1,107 Reply by jasko

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

^interesting

1,108 Reply by excellency (edited by excellency 2012-06-02 02:09:52)

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

drh699 wrote:

the man who wrote the article i posted above has a 'conflict of interest' as hes a board member of Biohit Oyj. so i did some background digging but it looks ok..... these are the websites of the company:



they obviously have an interest in the area of ALDH metabolism.

I followed up on this and came across a drug named Acetium that this company markets.  Could someone please check it out and give a simpler explanation of what it does and whether it solves our problem?  Sorry, don't have a scientific or medical background here so I hope someone with said credentials can help out...

Also, I had to take out the links because the forum said I wasn't allowed to post any links...stupid spammers

1,109 Reply by braddd

  • Registered: 2009-05-29
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Has anyone tried Pepcid Complete and compared it versus Pepcid AC?

1,110 Reply by Meme123

  • Registered: 2012-11-22
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

There a few comments about the new noglo product but it seems like they were deleted.
Why is that.? Curious to see if anyone has tried it

1,111 Reply by Dalmore

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

If anyone has a permission to post new topic, please do one on NoGlo.  The software won't let me.

1,112 Reply by asiana (edited by asiana 2012-12-06 16:51:24)

  • Registered: 2012-12-06
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Anyone who has tried Noglo or has heard of its effectiveness? It is quite strange I could not find any feedbacks about Noglo on this forum, neither on the web. All I could find was about some discount coupon sites for Noglo purchase. No testimonials, no records of any comments about this product. Weird..

  • Registered: 2012-12-08
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

last time i was cruising around the web and i found a site where one man claimed that he drank rewind hangover (a hangover prevention drink, and it's actually used after alcohol consumption to prevent hangovers). so he drank 1 hangover prevention drink before he started consuming alcohol, and he didn't turn red at all the whole night.
he promoted the drink on this forum, but unfortunately the forum has been deleted or something, cause i can't view it anymore. 
bananaloft dot com/archives/asian_flush


ow and the website of this magical drink called 'rewind hangover' is this:
nomorehangover dot com

so maybe some of you may want to check it out if it works.
btw. this drink does not promote that it cures alcohol flush, it's just that some guy found out that if you drink this before consuming alcohol, you won't get red anymore or something like that.

1,114 Reply by Josh-K

  • Registered: 2012-12-24
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

asiana wrote:

Anyone who has tried Noglo or has heard of its effectiveness? It is quite strange I could not find any feedbacks about Noglo on this forum, neither on the web. All I could find was about some discount coupon sites for Noglo purchase. No testimonials, no records of any comments about this product. Weird..

I've seen some testimonials on Noglo's webpage, they look pretty credible for me, but I'd also like to see some feedback from users of this forum. I got one pack of Noglo last week, just started to take, after some days will add my small review here ;)

1,115 Reply by Josh-K

  • Registered: 2012-12-24
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

P.S. new topic for Noglo! echeng.com/asianblush/viewtopic.php?id=155

1,116 Reply by echeng

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Apologies for the missing posts. I had to revert the database back a bit—we moved servers, and this database wasn't updated properly. But we're back and running, now.

echeng's Website

  • Registered: 2013-01-04
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

I'm Korean and I'v been using Pepcid Ac Max strength every time I drink and it does help! BUT, sometimes I have to double cross my fingers that it will. I normally take 2 (40mg) of them and I HAVE to wait an hour. Sometimes if I wait too long, like an hour and 30 minutes to drink, I'll get red. Im not sure why. Anyone have an explanation? I understand that you have to wait for it to kick in, but sometimes I'll wait an hour, Ill be good to go. But other times, I'll wait an hour and its like i never took it. I really don't have an understanding of it because im waiting more than that one hour needed to kick in. Does this happen to anyone else?

1,118 Reply by NoGlo

  • Registered: 2012-11-26
  • Posts: 27

Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

iammeagan, flushing is also affected by several other factors. Examples of these are room and body temperature, how much food you have in your stomach, how much food/energy you have consumed that day, how much exercise you have gotten, and how much drinking you have done within the week. This might help explain your varying experience with pepcid. I will also note that pepcid works as an anti-inflammatory and your body's response to this may vary and will also be reduced over time. Antacids like pepcid do not actually reduce blood acetaldehyde, but reduce only one symptom, inflammation. People usually experience varying amounts of success and this is normal. If you have others, please do not hesitate to ask more questions.

1,119 Reply by jasko

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

anyone try this rewind hangover or noglo yet?

1,120 Reply by NoGlo

  • Registered: 2012-11-26
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Hi Jasko,

There is a dedicated NoGlo thread now where people are beginning to share their experiences on this forum. Please ask any questions if you have them.

1,121 Reply by Jason1992 (edited by Jason1992 2013-01-14 15:19:11)

  • Registered: 2012-12-08
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

(this is in referral to one of my former posts)

I'd recently just bought the rewind hangover 12 pack from their website and have put it immediately into practise.  though,i haven't really used different methods yet, but the method that i'm using now, has some good results.

I'd start by taking a zantac 75mg 40 min till 60 min before drinking. Then i would drink half a bottle of rewind hangover (for now it has been enough for me), or drink it after one beer.
and after that i'd basically be able to drink 5-6 glaces of beer without getting red at all within a timeframe of 3 to 3.5 hours.
5-6 glaces seems pretty good for only 1 zantac+ half a bottle of rewind hangover:)

So I highly recommend this combination, it works pretty fine for me:)

1,122 Reply by fuzz

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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Hey all,

I have been reading this forum for a while and finally decided to post my experience.

I am 22 years old, not of Asian descent (mostly German) and have been suffering from the dreaded glow.  I don't
always remember getting it and its sometimes worse than others.

After finding this site i went out and bought generic Pepecid AC (20mg famotidine tablets). I have found on several different occasions that taking 5 20mg tablets 2 hrs before drinking has greatly reduced redness.  Maybe a little rosy but not anything near what would happen if i didn't take it.  Obviously, because of getting the glow i am not a big drinker so this method seems to work well if i wanna go out drinking 1 -2 times a week. 

I have tried the pepecid on a few separate occasions and it has worked. BUT, this past week/weekend i took the pills thurs-sunday and it worked but i did notice it seemed to be less effective by sunday.  Then i took a day off (Monday) and took the same amount (5 20mg pills) on Tuesday and waited the 2 hrs and my face red seemed to get pretty red after like 2 beers but then cooled off pretty quickly. 

Basically, the Pepecid seemed to work and i was SO SO SO happy about being able to go out in drink and not get red butttt i will say it would seem my body has built up a little bit of a tolerance to it after taking it multiple days in a row.  I would never drink that many days in a row normally but i sorta wanted to see if the Pepecid method was full proof. 

I am going to not take any Pepecid or drink for at least a week or more then try the method again and see the level of effectiveness.  See if my "tolerance" goes down and if it works like it did the first time i tried it. 

Anyone else have to up the number of tablets they take over time? Any experience using this method when drinking multiple days in a row?

1,123 Reply by elrohir

  • Registered: 2013-01-24
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Asian wrote:

2x Pepcid 10mg works fine, reduces the redness to pink, usually gets RED. Ill try to get some Pepcid 40mg here in Sweden, think it will reduce the redness even more.

anyone know where i can get pepcid 40mg here in europe, webshop?? mail me!

I do not know how it happened, this dose I have a headache point

  • Registered: 2013-01-26
  • Posts: 4

Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Hey fellow flushers,

My name is Pat and I suffered from Alcohol Flush just like you. I was fed up with dealing with the embarrassing effects of the condition, so we decided to get to the bottom of it. After spending over a year researching why it happens within the body and what can be done to prevent it, we arrived at our formula, AF Reducer.

I am not trying to appear as a pushy business owner, I want to spread the word that there is a product available to help the flushing. I know how much is sucks being embarrassed by your red flushed face and neck. I used to get Asian Glow very badly, which is why we started this company, to help people like you.

Our supplement is taken prior to drinking and significantly reduces flushing caused by alcohol. I encourage you to check us out online at afreducer.com . I'm so confident that our product will work for you that you can use this 10% off coupon on your next order! (code "OnlinePromo"). If you don’t like it for any reason I will refund you 100%, no questions asked !

Please message us on the site if you have any further questions!

  • Registered: 2013-01-26
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Re: H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid)

Joey wrote:

No offense, but if you don't have it, you wouldn't really know what it's like.  I am glad that there are some alternatives to cut it back.  Hopefully an official cure comes.  I've used Pepcid, and it worked pretty well.  You can only get 10mg in Canada, but I took two about two hours before drinking.  It did the job.

Hey Joey,

My name is Pat and I suffered from Alcohol Flush just like you. I was fed up with dealing with the embarrassing effects of the condition, so we decided to get to the bottom of it. After spending over a year researching why it happens within the body and what can be done to prevent it, we arrived at our formula, AF Reducer.

I am not trying to appear as a pushy business owner, I want to spread the word that there is a product available to help the flushing. I know how much is sucks being embarrassed by your red flushed face and neck. I used to get Asian Glow very badly, which is why we started this company, to help people like you.

Our supplement is taken prior to drinking and significantly reduces flushing caused by alcohol. I encourage you to check us out online at AFreducer.com . I'm so confident that our product will work for you that you can use this 10% off coupon on your next order! (code "OnlinePromo"). If you don’t like it for any reason I will refund you 100%, no questions asked !

Please message us on the site if you have any further questions!

From one flusher to another,
-Pat