H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid) (Page 44 of 52)

how much do u drink for pre-gaming? is 2 pints enough? Also, after your side affects have subsided, do u fink that you can drink agen like 4 hours later and you will not experience any side affects agen? Can you drink for the whole night after pre-gamin without experiencin any of the side affects?

What other steps do u mean? Also, after you begin drinkin again once the side effects have subsided, should u still use pepcid for extra prevention?

So is there a consensus on how long before drinking has the best results?  I've read everywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours.  I think that might be a personal thing.  I need to do some testing on myself for a while.

not sure if its just me, but do you guys get drunk faster when taking a pepcid as opposed to not taking anything?

I bought the no red face formula.  It is much more involved than taking pepcid ac, and I haven't truly tried out the formula yet.  It is not easy to pull off when you are with a big group of people.

Everybody's body is different. You really just have to experiment yourself. Me, I hateeeee being the one declining drinks, but I've come to terms with just telling people I don't like to eat and drink. After dinner meals, I'll order a drink (and of course go to the bathroom and pop a pepcid chewable). Drink that slowly and I'm ok. What ever happened to Convivia? Grr.

I am an AF sufferer.  I don't know what that No Red Face Formula has but the following is what I found out from reading this forum.  I use regular strength Zantac in combination with 1 Himalayan liver care pill and 2 Brewer's Yeast pills.  I take it in empty stomach about half hour before my 1st drink.  Then I take 1 additional pill of liver care and 2 Brewer's Yeast pills before my 2nd drink.  No flushing, no headache and some heart palpitation but not too much.  Then I repeat the same liver care and brewer's pills before my 3rd drink but I don't feel good after having the 3rd drink.  Maybe because I drank too quickly or acetaldehyde build up.  At any rate, it works for me up to 2 drinks which ideally people shouldn't go over anyway.  Hope this helps.

Hi, I have been taking antiacids but not Zantac or Pepacid just a pharmacy branded tablets. I have been taking two lots of 75mg Ranidtitdine. My question is that when I drink even though my face doesn't go red, my eyes go really red and my bags under my eyes go red so I look really tired does anyone else have experience this? If so could they recommend a good eye drop.

Thanks.

Hi everyone,
I'm a young asian male and I've been taking 2-3 Zantac (150mg/300mg) tablets before I drink for the past 3 years. I'm a relatively frequent drinker (at college).

I'd just like to warn everyone, that I've developed Gynecomastia in my right breast (colloquially known as man boobs) and it is easy to see. Zantac contains a chemical known as ranitidine that is known to develop gyneomcastia in men.

Anyway, the surgery to get it removed is cosmetic so health insurance doesn't cover the expense - please check your chest area for gynecomastia early to try and stop it before it fully develops like mine did. I have not had alcohol or the drug for a good 3 months in the hope that my hormonal testosterone to estrogen ratio will balance back to normal. I doubt it is reversible however.

Good luck to everyone

Read if you can: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 … x/abstract
Great article that is not as one dimensional as the title might suggest and actually gives a lot of good insight into acetaldehyde (ALDH) metabolism AND its HOT OFF THE PRESS. Im also aware many of you will not have access to the article so if you say please nicely someone anonymous might accidently send the PDF to the wrong person....

Basically two interesting 'new' points ive never come across:

1. QUOTE: "Rinsing the mouth for 3 days with a chlorhexidine mouthwash decreases microbial acetaldehyde production by about 40% and this is associated with a significant decrease in the counts of both aerobic and anaerobic oral bacteria." (for those with non-med/science backgrounds, ALDH is a carcinogen. some bacteria are also known to be carcinogenic. AND some bacteria also produce ALDH as a product of metabolism, so getting rid of ALDH and bacteria is doubly excellent.) So maybe to reduce our risk of cancer by just a little a post drinking mouth rinse of chlorhexidine might be a good idea?

2. Different alcohols have different levels of ALDH in them. Fruit-based alcohols e.g. calvados, sherries, port, mulled wines etc have the highest levels. While vodka and beer, according to the article, have the lowest. So stick to the voddy for minimal symptoms.

I hear there is an ENT doctor lurking on this forum somewhere. any insight from him would be ideal.

FYI 2nd yr med student and asian and flusher and waiting for convivia.

Final tidbit of info on chlorhexidine: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100003692.html

Hello everyone,

first of all, I'd like to say I feel very relieved to have found this small community. Asian Flush is a real burden in social circumstances, so I hope we will find a way to get rid of it sometimes soon.

I am a white "causasian" with blond hair, and  yet suffering from AF. Actually my mother is vietnamese, but no-one could tell at first sight. This makes it worse I think, because people are not used to see "white people" flushing so much when drinking.

I started getting drunk with friends at the age of 16, and always experienced the flushing. After one single drink my face and neck will turn bright red, my eyes will be sleepy, I feel warm and my heart beats fast. In the past I didn't really care about it and continued drinking at least once a week. But now that I grew old, it is getting more and more difficult to accept it.

After some research on the internet, I have tried many of the "tricks" mentioned in this forum. My conclusion is that some of them DO WORK, but not are not 100% effective (residual redness), and do not ALWAYS work. Here are the few things that are true to me :
- drinking slowly is very important
- eating several hours before the first drink, or not eating at all
- taking a dump before drinking (im serious!)
- rather drinking vodka and energy drinks (redbull contains niacin!)
- taking zantac 1-2 hours before drinking
- avoid sitting too long or remain too passive
- avoid crowded space
- taking aspirin
- using skincare cream
- have a long sleep the night before

When I manage to follow most of this rules, my flushing isn't bad, although you can notice some slight redness. THat is probably highly unhealthy but I manage to get very drunk without looking like a total freak. However If I am to stay in a very light room, I'd rather not drink too much.

Btw, I couldn't help thinking that since we have a quite large community contributing to this forum, why don't we try to run a statistical study on which drugs/methods worked and for who?