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Anyone tried B12?
I had my doctor test me for B12? He said it was low so I started taking sublingual B12 drops. 1000mcg per day. I had always taken vitamins before but the change since I have started taking the B12 is amazing. It would seem that I lack the ability to absorb B12 in the gut and B12 is necessary for the muscles in the gut to work properly and it helps control the up take of water from the gut. I think the lack of B12 caused all my problems. Anyway long story short I don't blush anymore. I have even tried liquor straight up, like rum, that would always light me up like a xmas tree. But not anymore. :)

Has anyone heard of Sobrietol? It is taken orally and is supposed to give us the missing enzyme that we are missing to break down alcohol.

http://www.sobrietol.com/Content/Default.aspx

I notice alot of eurasians/mixed race people are reporting the flush and mutant enzyme commonly.  Perhaps even a higher proportion given there are not as many of us as compared to traditional race castes.  edit:  Actually it would be great if you could create a thread with demographics: age, sex, race, location, and to throw a subjective spanner in the works: attitude to drinking.  We do not have the financial and organizational power to conduct efficient suverys - but it would be good to get some sort of data to start

BTW I posted my accumulated research here: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=258303 a while ago now under the username earthsuit.ga (second last post)

i checked the number of hits on this website and it is currently past 18,000,000.  That's a giant number of people, and (no offense echeng) i think theyre mostly checking the asian flush website.  So that means you, eric cheng, and this forum, has quite a bit of influence now, and everyone has the exact same problem!  there has to be something this forum could do, considering there are not a lot of forums with followings this large or loyal.  what do you think about starting a money drive to donate to research, like of products like convivia and alda-1, which specifically say they are trying to treat the asian flush?  plus, with the current financial crisis, these smaller research programs could run out of funding.  If 1% of the people who have visited this website donated $1, we would have raised $180,000 already...

i just found out some information relating to the effects of kudzu (pueraria) on acetaldehyde metabolism.  kudzu root (pueraria radix) is commonly used to make people less likely to drink alcohol, because it slows down acetaldehyde metabolism.  on the other hand, pueraria flos, or the extract of the flower of the same plant, is supposed to increase acetaldehyde metabolism.  here is the study:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&a … t=14511203

and here is a link to a new product that contains this pueraria flower extract (called gen hua in chinese):

http://www.toyobiopharma.com/pdf/Puer-1-2-3-4.pdf

i dont know if this would work, seeing as it is currently marketed as a diet product, but i would like to give it a try.

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groooooan!

only joking.  Congratulations on finding this solution.  How much redness did you get if any?  Bit busy atm, so I cant try it, but ill definitely keep it in mind and an eye on this thread

I get somewhat red when I play sports or jog at the gym. I don't get as red from sports as I do drinking though. I highly doubt its related. When playing sports and running around, I get red for a couple minutes but it goes away, when i drink, the redness stays for an hour or so. But yea, like i said... this is just my experience... some people may react differently

Long post, sorry.

I ordered the Ge Hua (Pueraria flower). I mixed it the first time with just two teaspoons to make sure I wasn't allergic. That same night I tried 4 tablespoons with cold water. Tasted bad but drinkable. I waited exactly 30 minutes then took a few shots. It seemed to work but I still felt like I had increased blood pressure, and an uncomfortable feeling, but better than usual.

The next night though I tried 4 tablespoons in hot water, near boiling (I know absucks advised not to use boiling water). I feel that this night there was no real effect. I had two beers in a two hour period, was not red, but was not exactly comfortable either.

After these two trials I've determined that this works about as well as pepcid -not very good.  Given that I think it worked better with cold water rather than hot I will try cold water once more before I write this method off.

As far as absucks having said he had 10 beers, I won't say he was lying. Judging by his past posts, he is committed to this subject and problem, so I see no reason for him to be deceptive.

If this herb is the route that Convivia is taking it could be promising. Somehow it seems like the chemicals need tweeking (like absucks, I'm no chemist, just someone typing stuff). However, the packaging of this herb has a CA STATE warning of carcinogenic properties within the product, making me nervous about taking this 4 tablespoons at a time. I hope this post stems more discussion, especially from absucks who i'd like to hear from again.

Something also tells me that the solution, whatever it may be, likely won't be a natural flower or herb. Just thinking about it, this problem is concentrated in the area of and around China, and the Chinese were world leaders in finding herbal solutions to even the most obscure disorders. Likely, if there is a magic solution for us, then it isn't going to be anything obvious.

What is 4-mp? Does anyone know the status of Convivia? I know there's another thread for that, but still, it seems rather silent from that research lab. I thought they were supposed to announce something by now.

yep i cant write anything

After reading a lot of these posts, everyone seems to be mainly concerned about blushing, redness, splotchiness etc. I rarely get any blushing, if anything, I'll get slightly rosy cheeks which I don't mind so much. I'm pissed about not being able to get pissed! I can get buzzed, tipsy sometimes.. but if I try to drink more and even try to get drunk, I'll feel sick in the guts and throw up.

I have SO many embarassing/amusing puke stories without even reaching drunk :\ Before I thought I had to build a tolerance, but soon barf after barf I found out it is due to my bloody asian genes. Grrr. I've learnt to drink in a way to stop seeing dinner twice.. here are some of the things I've tried:
- line my stomach with milk half hour before drinking (meh didn't do much, placebo effect)
- make sure not to drink on an empty stomach but leave time for digesting before drinking (helps I think)
- don't mix different types of alcohol, stick to one drink (usually works)
- don't drink too fast, have water in between drinks (good idea, make sure bathrooms are readily available)
- smoke some weed before drinking (it seemed to work)

When I drink these days, I stick to cider or sparkling wine, but overdoing these still will make me puke eventually. For some reason these don't make me as nauseous but I still can't get a normal drunk like most people which sucks. I would really love to just drink without worrying about overdoing it a little and ruining my night and just have fun. Unfortunately not being able to get drunk has turned me onto other substances which worries me a little. Does anyone else have the same problem? Does Pepcid help with nausea or is it just for the redness? Please reply if you're in the same boat! Is it wrong to wanna know what it's like to get wasted once in a while...