H2 Blockers (Tagamet, Pepcid, Zantac, Axid) (Page 37 of 52)

yeah thanks for your advice steph. moderation is probably the best move but i didnt know if taking an antacid tablet for people with asian flush to reduce flushing was like taking a asthma medication for a person with asstma.. if you know what i mean?!

i have tried to sort of research the'asian flush' quite a bit an i understand it might be due to our bodies not breaking down the alcohol efficiently.

but could facial flushing be due to an allergic reaction to sulphites and preservitives in wine and beer etc rather than the alcohol itself?

i was just wondering if anyone knew anything about that, and if they have tried maybe organic wine etc an noticed reduced flushing?

just a thought..

Hi everyone!  Male 33, 145 lbs  5'5  100% Vietnamese.  I read Pages 1-11 and 35-37.  Man, that is a lot of reading.  I've been drinking mostly weekends for 15 years or so.  Mostly I drink beer and usually 1-3 beers at a time.  Usually 1/8 of a can (a couple of sips) would get my face beet red.  Sometimes, my redness would last the whole night and other times it would last for 2-3 hours.  I would get a faster heart beat and eventually my body would feel hot and itchy...but only after drinking to get smashed.  It never really bothered me because I guess I just really didn't care all that much.  But then again, I never drank all that much either.  So...I'm in.  Just took 2 Pepcid AC tabs max strength (20 mg each) at the same time with a tall glass of water.  Going to wait 30 mins and start drinking some shots of hennesy.  I at 2 slices of bad pizza 1.5 hours ago and had a can of Coke Classic.  I'll report back on the results later.

I've been prepping H2-blockers before drinking since '95, and have gone through numerous trials and errors to find the right "regimen" for best alcohol tolerance.  Although this method may not work for everyone, it has worked quite well for me.

First, take the H2-blocker [I use zantac (generic- ranitidine) 75 - 150 mg] ON AN EMPTY STOMACH approximately 20-30 minutes before drinking. 

Second, eat some food approximately 10 minutes after you've taken the H2-blocker.  This gives time for the medication to be absorbed and also decreases the rate of initial alcohol absorption.  I noticed that if you start off drinking light (like beer) first, then you can hit the hard stuff as much as you want later.

Third, proceed to get intoxicated.

If you plan on a long night of drinking, bring an extra pill of H2-blocker, you can pop it approximately 3 hours later

Oh yeah, please drink responsibly, but if you can't, for god's sake find a designated driver.  Happy drinking.

Hi everybody. I've been reading up a lot on these posts for the last few days and it's good to know it the whole Pepcid AC thing really does help a lot of people. Unfortunately there seem to be some exception to the case. I haven't tried it yet but I'm eager and anxious to. My symptoms include turning beet red, getting the chills, occasionally get small headaches, and I would be chilly but my body gives off extreme heat. The most irritating of all though is that my heart beats unbelievably fast. I can deal with the redness and the heat but the heart beating nearly give me panic attacks.
       
       Quick question for anyone out there, is there a difference between drinking beer/wine and other hard liquor such as tequila or vodka? I usually get red after 3/4 of a beer or barely one glass of wine. But when I drink Aleze, and ONLY Aleze I can down around three and I can still handle it.

       Anyway, I'm sincerely hoping it will help me, even just a little... the inability to drink (in my case, at all) is extremely bad for my social life. I'm sure you all understand. Any replies would be appreciated, thank you.

Hey Jubes,
Welcome :)
I think that most of us have certain drinks that are worse than others.
For me, the worst is wine. Anything else seems to be ok but the cream liquors can make you feel sick if you drink lots of them, although I think that's true for the general population too!

Some people seem to be able to build up a 'tolerance' to alcohol if they drink a little bit regularly, but it's not true for everyone.
It seems that we are all doomed to pop pills in order to avoid the dreaded tomato face!

But be warned... some people have mentioned that they have built up a tolerance to pepcid! This means that they have to take more pills to do the same job that less pills did before. This is dangerous cos pepcid can only be taken in moderation and the stuff that we can't break down is slightly carcinogenic so really we shouldn't be drinking at all!

As always, do your due diligence with our advice, we are NOT doctors.
Be careful, have fun.

hey i reAd that ru 21 does what we are missing

In simple terms, when you put alcohol in to your body an enzyme is produced which turns alcohol in to Acetaldehyde (a toxic byproduct which is processed through the liver)

Taking RU-21 when you drink stops the body producing this enzyme...
No nasty enzyme means no Acetaldehyde... No toxins means no nasty morning after...

Rather than taking products to ease the pain the following morning, covering up the symptoms

DO YOU THINK IT WORKKKS? =D

could you drink before though?

i usually use a combo of zantac and pepcid max (two pepcid max, one zantac, sometimes vitamin c) and it works fine.  i prefer to drink without it though and just get embarassingly red, because i think taking antihistamines with alcohol is not good for you.  i just want to comment that the H2 blocker is just a superficial cure that masks the red face without eliminating acetaldehyde, which causes cancer. 

there is another post on this website that has a link to a real cure that has been researched but has not been developed-

http://www.research.va.gov/programs/tec … 99-071.htm

yeah but why is everyone here waiting for someone else to find a real cure?  this site gets a LOT of visits, so there are tons of people who are interested, and companies like Cheerz hangover are the only ones that know about this site, and Cheerz is a total fraud. 

i think we should form a group and maybe have eric cheng pool money for us and we can donate it to acetaldehyde research (which is CANCEROUS) by the way, so that we all, and billions of people in the future, can do without this very inconvenient problem.

i think we are all assuming the same thing- that someone else will get it together and come up with a cure.  but until that someone knows that there are people who are willing to help and support him/her they are going to research topics that seem the most relevant or useful.  ive read a lot of post that are like 'hey, were asians!! asians are smart! we should have a cure by now!!'.  this is not only stereotyping asians, it also shows how passive our attitude is toward our situation.  most of us have lives but i think spending a little time on curing this is worth it!

I tried somethign a tad different on Sat nite as a tester but i need to explain a few things that day.

I did have dairy a coffee in the morning and a ham & cheese croissant.
Had various food thru the day.
last thing i ate was about 4pm and that was a pie.

at about nearly 8pm i had 2 pepcid ( i refuse to take anymore because i dont want to build up a resistance to it). i also had about a tablespoon of honey and hot water. about 45 mins later i had my first beer and that took about 45 mins to drink.

Redness was low, infact i didnt feel my face getting to red. Not that much flush thru the nite and OMG did i drink myself into a stupor on sat nite!!!!

So this high fructose thing.. yeah it could work!!! I have to try it out again! I'll update findings and different scenarios.

hey all,

it's comforting to know that there are so many people out there fighting the asian glow!
when drinking, i have alot of the common symptoms that others have listed: increased heart rate, overwhelming sleepiness, beet face, and splotchy arms. for awhile i just avoided drinking all together because i always felt nauseous and would vomit after one drink.

i tried the pepcid ac thing and it seems to be working for me. i try to avoid dairy for the whole day, and usually take it about 2 hours after i eat a meal and one hour before i start drinking. it's sad that alot of planning goes into this! i still get a bit red - but no more racing heart beat and nausea. i can actually get good and drunk, without feeling bloated or like i have to throw up. i only do the pepcid when i know i'll be drinking alot, which is maybe once week.

thanks for all the helpful posts :)

Does anyone have any personal experience with the chewable pepcid tabs vs the pill form? The effectiveness of it and the amount of time it takes to kick in (is it any better/quicker)?

Also, what is this n-acetylcysteine you guys were mentioning?