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Discussion and anecdotes about the Asian Flush/Flush/Glow/Red Face (turning red when drinking alcohol), including using H2 blockers (e.g. Tagamet, Pepsid, Zantac) and other products to combat its effects. Hosted by Eric Cheng on http://echeng.com
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I hate how if something comes up, someone comes by. They're like, wanna have a drink? We gotta be like.... uh uh uh nah I'm sorry I'm not in the mood or I'm tired........ that's what I do anyway. It's soooooooo lame UGH.
yeah IronMikes lucky only takin 1 pill to eliminate it. I take 3 just to be sure, even though I know that is bad........ I don't care.
and I'm only half Asian. I'm half-Asian half German.
my brother doesn't have it at all. My mom has it though (the Asian half of my parents). and I hate it.
Yeah, I'm just like adam. I'm like 6 foot, about 170 lbs..... I found that taking 3, 20MG famotide tabs of maximum strength pepcidac work the best for me...... I try to take it about an hour before or a half hour before, with a lot of water to get things circulating. Also, I drink capt. morgan and coke and stuff, mixed drinks when I go out. Maybe on the first drink I MIGHT turn a lil pink, but it goes away.
I know it's risky and shit using this while drinking and smoking cigarettes... but I don't care. It's the risk I'll take to be normal.
jasko wrote:4. Get your body to make acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (why hasn't anyone freakin' tried this?!)
How might you do this?Well, this is one for the chemists to cook up, but it's not impossible. AD is an enzyme, just another protein in your body. It has been purified a number of times, from plants and animals, and can be synthesized. So, it's just a matter of getting some form of it into your bloodstream. It's hard because most large proteins get digested when you take them orally, but there are ways around that (e.g. ingest an inactive precursor that is only active once it's metabolized). Personally, I'm enraged that pharmaceutical companies haven't devoted all of their resources to curing The Flush. After all, sure AIDS, cancer, heart disease kill millions, but they simply don't compare to getting f-up, turning maroon, and feeling like you just ran a damn marathon. There's gotta be a nobel prize in curing the ails of millions of sober asians just trying to get wasted.
Lol... most people don't give a damn about the small % of us that have this. If anything, it'd be invented by someone who has this defect. :(
AUSTRALIAN GUY HERE:
But i find that after 5 drinks (and if i pace myself) the reddnesss goes away and i can continue drinking and there is not much reddness at all. So - the first say 2 hours i am red, the next 5 hours of drinking i am not red (but i admit by then i am very drunk).
yeah that happened to me when I was around 16... I was taking shots of Tequila with a friend, and as we were going I noticed I wasn't red anymore, but way f'd up. I always thought it was something I ate that day, or the alcohol we drank. I dont remember.... this was my early days of drinking where I didn't really know about this Asain blush stuff. ... now I know. and I HATE it.
4. Get your body to make acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (why hasn't anyone freakin' tried this?!)
How might you do this?
hey it was my bdae they other day i got drunk right it was sweet as for a bit you know giggly and flirty and next mintue im just leaned over my friends fence and spewed.. it was horrible.. i wasnt spewing food up though it was just like liqud and then i sat down and i felt good and then suddenly this horrible!!!! pain was in the back of my head like a really bad headache and i kept drinking water and then i spewed again and it felt like my insides was being torn up and stuff.. why does this happen???? is there anything else instead of pepcid i could use or do???
gotta know your alcohol tolernace... you prolly drank too much and yacked it up.
just remember, every drink will creep up on you. you dont need to keep up with the crowd to be f'd up.
it's supposed to make you more drunk, so it could also be increasing blood level acetaldehyde, therefore increase your risk of cancer.
I actually don't get more drunk because of it.. it takes longer really.. Well, longer than it would without taking it.
and Yes. I do fear the side-effects of it. I'd like to know myself, but I don't think there's any scientists out there conducting a concentrated experiment with this. Id probably be laughed at before being studied :(
With this in mind, my motto is, as shitty as it is, I'm only going to live once, and if I have to take these three pills to have fun and let loose, then so be it. I know, you don't need to drink to have fun, but being surrounded by everyone casually drinking/drunk.. you cave in. And spare the peer pressure speech too.
Like I said in previous posts, until they legalize, or at least decriminalize marijuana (www.norml.org), alcohols the resort.
^I suppose you're right. Anyway, back to the lecture at hand. Anyone have any personal experience on some alcohols that work better than others? Not getting f'd up wise, but not turning red wise? I hear vodka does well?
Generally I just drink Captain Morgan and Coke.
Let us know what ya'll usually drink- from beer to liqour to wine
okay i have "asian blush" too and so does my 14 year old niece stephanie. she usually gets rosy after one beer. is it safe for her to take 40 mg Pepcid AC?
lol.... I don't know you might want to ask a doctor......
isn't 14 a little young to start drinking
Hi all. I usually take 40 mg of pepcid 1 1/2-2 hrs before drinking and it seems to work most of the time. I still get a slight pink though. However the last time I took 40 mg, I turned beet red! I had one glass of Bailey's Irish Rum, so now I'm wondering if it's because of the dairy ( I think it's coffee or choco flavored??). I've been wanting to do the 60 mg since I still get a slight red from 40 mg but been hesistant since it says not to exceed 40 mg on the box. How much of a difference does it make from 40 to 60 for those of you who's tried 60?? Also do u take the normal pepcid, or max strength pepcid?? Thanks!
Though the package says do not take more than 40mg, from experience I say that 60mg does the job right. Take 3 pepcid ac max strength about an hour before you drink or even a half hour, drink a lot of water to have the pills get going in your system, and you should be able to go after that.
You should really do self tests at your home and see what your limits are..
Snuffy wrote:* took additional 20 mg pill (still a little leary of taking 60mg as it exceeds max recommended dosage)
Yeah I'm not keen on taking 60mg either... but 40mg just doesn't work for me :(
I have read that some (stomach ulcer) patients take incredibly high dosages of famo for around 2 weeks with no/little side effects. By high, I talking well over 150mg famo per day.So although I need around 60mg for the stuff to work properly, I figure that I'm not taking the pills every day (in fact prob on average only 3-4 times/month) I am willing to risk taking 60mg in one go. If any docs/chemists out there disagree, please let us know cos I'm sure that I'm not the only one that has to take 60mg each time.
Have a good weekend, y'all.
Yeah, I don't like popping 3 20mg pills either just to get drunk, but two isn't enough really. After all it does say don't exceed 2 pills on the package. I fear long term effects.... problems with my bladder or liver or whatnot.
But, whatever. I want to drink. Unless they legalize marijuana, alcohols the only way to kick back and chill.
I'm......... wasted.
I suggest you all keep beer at your place. Eat your dosage of pepcid, drink a beer before you go out to get the alcohol flowing/eliminate the redness (if you still get it) at your place. or even a shot of whatever. the "pregaming" method. I did this tonight. No redness at all. Inhaled massive amount of wings, french fries, mix drinks. I'm done. Goodnight.
Just came home from drinkin. Took 3 x 20MG pepcids. After my first drink (double capt. and coke), I was fine until like 10 mins later. Then I started heating up. No one said anything about my face or anything so I dunno. My face felt warm as hell though for like 10 mins. Then it went away and I was fine.
I ate at about 530pm, took 3 pills at around 830pm with a half a liter of water, started drinking at like 10.
I dunno. I hate having to keep eating pills to drink. It makes it not even worth it sometimes.
I've been thinking about why we don't process the acetylaldehyde dehydrogenase fast enough, which makes us red. Is there a way to make us produce it faster? The famo slows to alcohol process to acetyaldhyde, right? (Sorry all this chemisty is way beyond me!)
I found in a round-about way this stuff called glutathione. From what I've read, it is best produced by the amino acid cysteine. Apparently this gluta thing is an antioxidant which is good for general health but also very good for the liver. Does anyone know more about this stuff and if it would help us at all? Has anyone tried it?
All you chemistry professionals out there, please let me know what you think. Cheers
Sorry, I know nothing about it. Someone on here, one of the posts a while ago, said he had the cure for the flush, and that's it. I messaged him and asked what his cure was and he told me to drink a Red Bull before drinking and then like another one after the first or second drink. Supposidly it will speed up the breakdown of the alcohol? Apparently he's tried it and it works for him, unless he's just clowning me around.
I've yet to try it because, well, I've been too lazy to go out and buy Red Bull. Anyone wanna try this and let us know?
Drinking *after* the meal seems to maximize the effectiveness.
Effectiveness of the pepcid taking action or the effictiveness of the flush turning you red?
I'm trying out the dairy theory. Tonight I had a big cheeseburger for dinner and had a chocolate shake as dessert. I first took (20 * 20 mg) of Pepcid AC 30 minutes before eating. Just had one beer (Sam Adams) and don't seem to have any redness or ill effects. Without Pepcid, one beer usually makes me red. Will post again with more testing.
I hope you meant 2 * 20mg.... but doritobreathes theory was to not eat anything all day really, and avoid things such as cheese/chocolate shakes. But, regardless. Let us know your results.
Also, how long apart did you take the Pepcid and eat your meal? or was it before?
angel wrote:LOL im not dat weeee im just like any other person who wants to have fun and all.. so can anyone help me out please please please please..
btw.. smoking weed does make you stoopid :P
Angel, relaaaaaaaaxxx, slow down and enjoy the ride a bit. ;-)
Seriously though, I've found that 2 Pepcid ACs (20mg each) taken with a full glass of water about 45-60 minutes before drinking works best. I've found that if you want a *long* time after taking them (1.5 hours or more) tends to make my stomach ache just a bit. Nothing terrible, but like I'm really, really hungry.
I'm still experimenting with eating first, not eating at all, and eating with the first few drinks. More careful observation needed there.
I've also found that Zantac 150 doesn't work as well as Pepcid AC Max Strength. Granted, this is just *my personal* experience. I've been reading this forum since Eric started it a long time ago and see that different things seem to work for different people. Overall though, I think the H2 blockers definitely work. They don't *completely* eliminate the symptoms, but they do make it "livable". The most significant thing is that they all seem to greatly reduce the rapid heartbeat, dizziness, and general "sick" feeling most of us get when drinking. Still some redness, but it seems most can at least enjoy a few drinks without feeling like you'd rather be dead!
Hope that helps!
Yeah. I've found that drinking a lot of water while first taking the Pepcid helps it break down and take effect better. I find that eating on an empty stomach, or eating BEFORE you take the pills works best. There was this one time where I ate 2 pepcid and ate a hamburger and fries about an hour into drinking and I started to feel heated and sensed my face was red. I think eating takes away the effects of the famo. I dunno though, even when I do turn a little pink or a little red when I eat the pepcid, it only lasts for about 10 minutes if even, then goes away and I feel great (normal).
So all in all, I agree 2 Pepcids about a half hour or an hour before with a bottle/glass of water works well with this flush.
keep the stories coming people!
Hi!
I have the solution for the asian flush. I don't get red at all, but feel some minor headache.
I can drink 4 six packs, before getting drunk. after 12 beers I feel a little migraine(headache). but 6 more gets me feeling better.
then 6 more, I get the headache again.
so, what's your solution?
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