sweetpea wrote:

Hey Im feeling you man lol i need this shit to!!! i have been trying to figure a way of getting them but i cant!! i dont got a credit card to get pepcid over internet and i cant get pepcid/famo over the counter because im living in new zealand.. that can get hold of it in new zealand help me out just a little. i will do anything lol! my social life is getting worse and worse as weekends go on.. i am always the sober one at the partys which isnt very fun..and EVERYTIME .. some1 from somewhere out of the blues at the party goes wanna drink??! no1 else gets offered a drink besides from me.. and i always have to turn it down.. n say i dont drink.. which then drags on into a long convo about..y i cant..

Sweetpea darlin'... get yourself a PrezzyCard from a PostShop! I've bought one and its great (I use mine for nights out, instead of carrying my real credit card)
http://www.nzpost.co.nz/Cultures/en-NZ/ … rezzyCard/

Or, use the Zantac + Claratyne combo.

I have just had a holiday and was drinking every night (usually only 2-3 beers/alcopops). The famo worked a treat. I love that stuff! :)



TrueBel: You could ask your mate's dad if he can get some pills for you -- the worst that he'd say is 'no'. It's not a majorly restricted drug (as far as I know) so I don't think he'd get into trouble for giving you some. I imagine that he can just put it through as a normal sale. After all, it is just a pill for stomach complaints! ;)

sweetpea wrote:

hey all.. can some1 please tell me how to reduce the pounding head and heavy thick hard breathing + da red face .. but i know that da pills do that but which one works the best to reduce the other effects??

Hi Sweetpea,

I thought you know about the secret of Pepcid?? Perhaps you need to increase your dosage or wait longer before drinking? Also drinking on an almost empty stomach seems to be best.

Most of us find that either pepcid, or the claratine/zantac combo work.

It may take some experimentation on dosage and timing for you to find out what works best for you. Perhaps let us know what your routine is now and someone may have a suggestion that may help you.

Crazykitkat22 wrote:

Hey Steph,
How many pills do you usually take?  I think one was just not enough for me.  Have you ever tried the Zantac+Clarintine combo or any other kind of combo?

Hey Crazy,

Like Snuff says 2-3 pills seems to be the norm here.

I take 3 pills... I want to see if I can cut back to 2 pills. I'm not keen on taking so many in one go :/

I've tried the Zantac/Claratine combo and it doesn't seem to work as well for me. But others have found that it works well so its worth a go too.

It seems that most of us have to take our first drink really slowly. For me, after say 1-2 really slow drinks, I can up the tempo heaps... like doing shots for the rest of the night (I like shots cos it max the alcohol effect without having to drink heaps of other liquid which means less toilet trips!)

Crazykitkat22 wrote:

When I drink just a couple sips of alcohol I get bright red like a tomato. So last night, I tried taking Pepcid AC because my sister told me about.  I only took one pill like half hour before I started to drink.  I got bright red like usual after a few sips of beer.  Is the Pepcid not working because I'm not taking enough of it? Is Pepcid better by it self or better to take it with like Claritin or another med? Please help!!!  I'm so embarrassed when this happens all the time.

hey Crazy,

Try waiting longer before having your first drink. Most of us take the pill then wait at least an hour before having the first drink. I personally wait 1.5-2 hrs :)

Try that first and if you still go red, still wait at least an hour or 2 but perhaps bump up your dosage to 2 pills.

And try not to feel too self-conscious about it, I'm sure that increases the redness!

Let us know how you're going.

Crimson wrote:

I gave the Zantac+Claritine combo a decent test this weekend. Went clubbing last night and I did about 6 shots in about 2hrs (2 Jagerbombs in quick succession among those), which normally would've given me a beetdown, put I was fine throughout the night, the flushing never hit me at all. Not even a pink glow.

Thanks to KMan for pointing me in the right direction with the Zantac+Claritine combo. Zantac on its own has a minimal effect, but Zantac+Claritine works 100%.

I feel so disappointed... the zantac/claritine combo doesn't work for me :(
Well, no better than pepcid anyway. OK, I had a glass and a half of wine quickly (for me), and I *do* suffer from the first-drink-redness even with famo... About half a glass of wine after the zan/clar pills was fine but I think I pushed the limits a bit and downed the rest of the glass a bit too quickly. For me, wine is the worst for making me red. And drinking the first drink or 2 quickly is also bad news.

After this glass and a half I had red and hot face, red neck, red ears. Gee, such a good look!
But heart not pounding so I guess that's some consolation?

So really I was feeling rather hopeful drinking wine, quickly, for my first zantac/claritine experiment. Its just that so many of you had such good results, I was feeling optimistic.
This experiment was:
* pills (1 each of zantac and claritine)
* pasta lunch
* about an hour after taking the pills, had about a glass and a half over about 1.5 hrs

I'll have to try another day, doing my usual routine:
* pills
* minimal food
* wait  a total of around 90 mins - 2 hrs
* drink first drink ssllllooooowwwwwlllllyyyy
* then step up drinking a wee bit


I'll post results then.
How's everyone else going??

jasko wrote:

hi people, haven't posted in a while. but yeah. I'm back.

Has anyone had any experience with food and Pepcid? I know it's been posted a bunch of times but I don't wanna go through it all again lol.
I hear it's better to do the nondairy, empty stomach thing. But if I don't eat people will think I'm a crackhead or something.

Has anyone been in this situation before or something along the lines of it? How did it go/what did you do (if so)?

Good to see ya Jasko ;)
Regarding food -- I've found that almost always I'll be at a food and drink outing, not just a drinking night. What I've found best is to eat lightly. The best situation is where you can just nibble throughout the night (ok, I just like to eat!). Eating a heavy meal before/after taking the pills make them less effective.

I personally haven't found any difference between eating and not eating dairy. But keeping your stomach relatively empty does seem to help.

So for your dinner party, perhaps opt for the lighter foods, green veges etc, stuff that isn't too stodgy (potatoes, steak etc). Try eating really slowly so that your tum has time to start to digest the food as you eat it.

dougfunny wrote:

Hey KMan...

What do you think about using Pepcid and Claritin/Claritine instead of the Zantac. I just read that patent link and it said that most of the peoples flushing came back after about 3-4 hours if they continued drinking. Maybe using Pepcid can let you drink for longer?

Hey Dougfunny,

I'm gonna give the Caritin/Zantac combo a go but I know that the Pepcid lasts the whole nite. Unfortunately I still suffer from a first drink flush if I drink it fast but after  a very slow start,  I can drink heavily(for me) - prob an average of around 4 drinks/hr. And I don't go red. This lasts at least 6-8 hrs. I haven't had a time where I've seen the effects of the Pepcid wear off.

I was wondering too about the 3-4 hr effectiveness of Claritin/Zantac. Can you just pop another couple of pills a few hours into the night to keep the flush away??

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Angel, if you're still around - this new combo that we've been discussing will be good for you. No prescription required! In NZ Claritin is called Claratyne. Both this and Zantac are available OTC at the chemist :)

mich wrote:

Hey I wanna try this whole Pepcid AC thing, does anyone have a recommended dosage for someone whose 5'5 120 lbs.? Thanks!

Hi Mich,

It seems that the number of pills depends on your flush. Most of us seem to get away with 1-2 pills (each pill containing 20mg famotidine). I personally take 3.

I would recommend just taking 1 or 2 the first time. Then you can gauge whether that's sufficient for you or not.

Take a read through some of the previous posts and you'll soon get an idea of what dosage people take and  what happens.

Hi Lazy,

Does your flush go away a few hours after you've stopped drinking? I think most of us here only really suffer while drinking and a few hrs after (or perhaps til the next morning)... if you react worse than this then I don't think that we can help you.

Your diet and smoking certainly doesn't sound great, from a general health point-of-view but I don't see why that would bring on a flush. Have you tried the pepcid or claratine+zantac combo that we talk about on this forum? Either of these combos seem to work wonders for almost all of us.

Good luck!

Sweetpea, you're going to Fiji?? Be careful in Suva mate. I hope things don't get worse while you're over there. (For those of you that don't know, Fiji is on the brink of yet another military coup...)

Famo in duty free? I've never seen it -- its a pharmacy medicine so I doubt it.

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I had a quick read about Zyrtec -- it didn't say anything about mixing it with alcohol. Although one of the common side effects is that it makes you drowsy, so be careful if you're driving... but then again if you're gonna be drinking you shouldn't be driving anyway!

I also read that Zyrtec is an H1 blocker so I don't know if it would work on me - worth a go I guess.

wai wrote:

alright guys, i've been using pepcid for a while, i think i've found a side affect

search "pepcid and hairloss" on google

OMG OMG OMG!!! Wai, have you had hair loss that you think is cos of Pepcid?? Anyone else had excessive hairloss? What a worry.

I took your advice and looked up 'pepcid and hair loss'. Hair loss is indeed one of the possible side effects. But I haven't found any indication as to how common it is. One website said the possible side effects are:

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http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/PEP1325.HTM

Side effects cannot be anticipated.  If any develop or change in intensity, inform your doctor as soon as possible.  Only your doctor can determine if it is safe for you to continue taking Pepcid.

The most common side effect is headache.

Less common or rare side effects may include:
Abdominal discomfort, acne, agitation, altered taste, anxiety, breast development in males, changes in behavior, confusion, constipation, decreased sex drive, depression, diarrhea, difficulty sleeping, dizziness, dry mouth, dry skin, facial swelling due to fluid retention, fatigue, fever, flushing, grand mal seizures, hair loss, hallucinations, hives, impotence, irregular heartbeat, itching, loss of appetite, muscle, bone, or joint pain, nausea, pounding heartbeat, prickling, tingling, or pins and needles, rash, ringing in ears, severe allergic reaction, sleepiness, vomiting, weakness, wheezing, yellow eyes and skin
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... yellow skin, oh no ;)

The same website also lists typical dosages for different conditions. It seems that typically a doc would prescribe 40mg/day but for Excess Acid Conditions (such as Zollinger-Ellison Syndrome) they can prescribe really high dosages:

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The usual starting dose is 20 milligrams every 6 hours, although some people need a higher dose. Doses of up to 160 milligrams every 6 hours have been given in severe cases.
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I hope that the theory of 'everything in moderation' also applies to taking pepcid. I hope that if we only take pepcid 1-2x a week then we'll be ok??

KMan wrote:

ok just an update on my H1/H2 combi (further to my earlier post).

It works.

How many of each pill did you take and how long did you wait before drinking? Did you drink on an empty stomach?

I'm curious to see if it'll work for me too. Perhaps it can be something that we can alternate with Pepcid :)

Tooshay wrote:

Does Zantac contain famo and if so is it equivalent to the amount pecid AC has?

Wonder if Pepcid is available in AUS

Zantac's active ingredient is another H2 blocker, ranitidine. It doesn't contain any famo. Some people find that Zantac works ok but most of us have to stick to Pepcid.

If you read some of our past posts, you'll have to get Pepcid from overseas. If you have a good doc, they may prescribe you a script for generic famo which is exactly the same as Pepcid. But... if you do want to have a look in the chemists yourself for OTC famo, other brand names are Pepzan, Pepcidine

Good luck!

Still Skeptical - how often did you take the pills when you first started? Were you like IronMike and went crazy and had them practically everyday? Or did you only take them 1x a week or less?

I really don't want to build up a tolerance to Pepcid and was wondering if you were taking them heaps, therefore speeding up your tolerance to the drug? I read ages ago that in medical studies for famo, people were documented in building a tolerance to it... that bummed me out :(

How often do you take pepcid now? Does that mean that you pop 10 pills before you go drinking?? Stink.

It's good to hear from someone that's been taking pepcid for a few years -- it may help us understand what we may be up against in the future!

I had 60mg famo for about 8-10 days straight and it worked fine :)
I normally pop the pills then wait around 1-2 hrs before drinking. As lots of us have found out, using famo on an empty or nearly empty stomach seems to work best. But also light snacking throughout the night is also ok.

I often found that I would be drinking while eating a meal so popping the pills before the meal is ok, perhaps not as effective as not eating at all but still ok... although I've had to drink really slow for the 1st drink or so or else I'd run the risk of going red. Or perhaps that's just because I'm more likely to be drinking wine with my meal which makes me go pink still :(

Jasko... LOVE the avatar! Hee hee. Life before Pepcid wasn't so pretty, eh? :)

Hey Flushie,

I tried Zantac once or twice. I only kind of works for me. I reckon it depends upon how bad your flush is - I reckon mine is about medium or slightly above medium (ie I flush quickly but don't get the nausea and vomiting etc).

Take a look at the link KMan posted - the article is trialing a combo of ranitidine and claratyne or something like that. But do be careful, I'm not sure if anyone here has tried that combo so I dunno what the side effects are.

Ironmike... take it easy bro! For me, yes I drink more but now its more like a treat that I have to plan in advance and I really don't want to be taking the pills every day. At the moment, I take them maybe once a week. Don't go crazy Ironmike - this new found 'remedy' is not to be abused!! We don't want you hurting yourself or anyone else because you're constantly drunk.

You're yanking our collective chain, aren't you?!
I don't suffer from the runs, but I do get funnier and much more interesting after I've had a few! ;)

Hey guys

I know that in the past I've mentioned that perhaps those of you that throw up, can try something like Gaviscon as well as pepcid. Is Gavi an antacid?? A friend of mine who doesn't need pepcid takes Gavi to stop her from throwing up. This works for her.

However... if Gavi IS an antacid, I'm not sure if its a good idea to mix them. My famotidine bottle says not to mix with antacids, iron or calcium. I don't want any of yaz to get really sick...

I guess if you throw up, test yourself at home and see if the effects of the pepcid still work...  have another drink and see if you go red. If you do, you may need another hit of famo?

uriel wrote:

Steph, thanks for note; let us know if you do hear anything else from your doctor.

Well I finally got more famo from my doc - I just phoned them and asked for a repeat, so I didn't need to actually see the doctor. Is anyone else going to their doc for famo? What have they said to you??

Hola Dimps,

Glad to hear that you found out about the Pepcid thing so you could enjoy your holiday!
Yeah us here in the underbelly of the world, can't get Pepcid OTC.
Check out my previous posts about possible solutions (ie find a reputable site in the states or go to your doc).

Its a shame that you didn't stock up while in Spain.

angel wrote:

hey steph

can you get generic famo in stores?? or do you have to go doctors?

Hey Angel,

ok, here's the deal. If your doc is good, he/she can prescribe you some.
Otherwise, you could try just asking a chemist for some famotidine. Lie and say that you have an ulcer and that you've tried Pepzan and it seems to be the thing that works best. But they don't make it any more so you would like to know if you can buy some generic stuff. Plead ignorance and say - if there is such a thing as generic pills like Pepzan.

I tried this and I hate lying... I could only get a few pills at a time and that only worked twice before the chemist told me to see my doctor. Getting it from my doc is so much easier on my conscience! :)

Good luck.

Snuffy wrote:

Question for the group:  Has anyone have any experience/feedback on the effectiveness of using generic Famotidine vs. brand-name Pepcid AC?  I use Pepcid AC Max (20mg), but see that the generic famo is significantly cheaper.  I know that in most cases, the generic is *exactly* the same as the brand name as far as formulation goes.

Hey Snuff,

I first used Pepzan, which is NZ's equivalent to Pepcid (just a different name, I think. It was made by one of those big drug companies)

It worked exactly the same as the generic famo, as far as I could tell. I'm guessing (and only guessing) that its the amount of famotidine that you take that makes the difference (e.g. however many pills it takes to get your 10mg, 20mg, 60 mg of famo).

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After my night with my friend Absolut, I swear I'm not going to do that again... not without my famo pills! 9 shots of vodka in just over an hour wasn't good. Not too drunk but rather red and I could still smell and taste it the next day :/ Yuk.