An article just came out today about Asian drinkers at oesophageal cancer risk:

"CHICAGO (Reuters) - Asians who get red in the face when they drink too much alcohol have a higher risk of getting cancer of the oesophagus, US and Japanese researchers said on Monday.

They said about a third of East Asians -- Chinese, Japanese and Koreans -- have an enzyme deficiency that causes their skin to flush when they drink alcohol, and this trait puts them at higher risk of developing oesophageal cancer, an especially deadly type with five-year survival rates of 12 to 31 percent.

"People are fairly well aware of this physical characteristic, which is sometimes called the Asian alcohol response or the Asian flush," said Philip Brooks of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, whose study appears in the Public Library of Science journal PLoS Medicine.

"I don't think people are aware that it is a warning sign for being at risk of esophageal cancer when they drink alcohol. That is what we wanted to point out," said Brooks, who worked on the study with Dr. Akira Yokoyama from the Kurihama Alcohol Center in Japan.

Brooks estimates that at least 540 million people have this alcohol-related increased risk for esophageal cancer.

He said the flushing response occurs in people who have a variation in the ALDH gene, which makes an enzyme called aldehyde dehydrogenase 2 that helps the body metabolize alcohol.

People with two copies of this gene variant have such extreme symptoms of flushing, nausea, and racing heart beat that they avoid drinking alcohol.

"They are basically at somewhat reduced risk of developing esophageal cancer because drinking alcohol for anybody is a risk factor for esophageal cancer," Brooks said in a telephone interview.

"The concern is for people who have one copy," he said, because they can tolerate drinking.

"In general, people with one copy have about a six to tenfold increase in the incidence of esophageal cancer."

Brooks said doctors should ask patients of East Asian descent of they have a history of facial flushing when they drink.

And he said university health professionals need to be aware of the link between facial flushing and cancer risk since many young people experiment with heavy drinking in college."



At the end of the article, there is a link that can take u for the full study :
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlse … ed.1000050

I strongly recommend you guys to read it when u have time.
scary stuff.


one main thing that caught my attention is this graph showing the risk of getting esophageal cancer between a normal and a ALDH2 deficiency drink on their alcohol intake : Low, Moderate, Heavy. 
With ALDH2 deficiency:
Low alcohol intaker has a 3%-20% odds ratio for esophageal cancer
Moderate alcohol intaker has a 10%-150% odds ratio for esophageal cancer
Heavy alcohol intaker has a 20%-200% odds ratio for esophageal cancer

(here is the link to the graph :
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/archiv … 005-M.jpg)

underneath it states from the study

"Alcohol consumption amounts: low, 1–8.9 units/week; moderate, 9–17.9 units/week; high, ≥18 units/week; where 1 unit = 22 g of ethanol. The referent (OR = 1) is never/rare drinkers (<1 unit/week) of either genotype. Odds ratios were adjusted for age, frequency of drinking strong alcohol beverages, pack-years of smoking, and intake of fruit and green-yellow vegetables, based on a multiple logistic regression model. Error bars are 95% confidence intervals. The graph is based on the data in [25]."

i did a google search on how many standard drinks is in 22g of ethanol (1 unit), i found that 1 standard drink contains about 10g ethanol (please correct me if im wrong here!!) so to classify as a low alcohol intake drinker: 1-8.9 units/week = you can have upto 17 standard drinks per week?  lets say a full strength beer is about 1.3 standard drink, a low alcohol intaker can drink upto 12 beers a week?
i am trying to work out if i am a low or a moderate drinker.  does the calculations above sounds right to you guys??

'Published retrospective studies have observed a significant correlation between recurrent drinkers with ALDH2 deficiency and an increase in risk for digestive tract cancers, liver diseases, late-onset Alzheimer's disease and other serious health disorders.' from the article at http://www.news-medical.net/?id=42792.

omg im freaking out at the moment, coz i drank A LOT in the last 4 years!! at least 3 times a week, getting completely wasted!! and the article suggests recurrent drinkers have a high chance for cancers and liver disease etc. I have toned down a lot this year, but after reading that article i am really worry the damage that i have done to my body!! im 23 yr old female, been taking zantac in the past year and a half.

does anyone think i already have made a massive damage to my body?? and if i go see a doctor and explain about my situation, would he be able to run some tests to see how my liver is and the risk of getting digestive tract cancers??

THANKS!

(I might have some occasional social drinks every now and then, but im really cutting out the big nites! )

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absucks wrote:

Here is my current method:
1.)order a bag of pueraria flower extract  (IMPORTANT: do not order pueraria radix, or Kudzu root, which is a more commonly sold herb that slows down the metabolism of acetaldehyde).

wowww
so excited to hear u found a new solution! i, myself, have suffered the same problem and have been taking 2 zantac tablets everytime before i go out. but im always worry that i will build up my tolerance for that and i am worry that there might be side effects for my body after taking zantac for a long time! and I tried taking N-Acetyl-cysteine but it didnt work at all!
so here is some questions i have after i read ur post:

1) so what exactly is this pueraria flower extract? is it all natural stuff? not medicine as such?
2) and where can u order a bag of those?
3) how red do u ususally get? (i get very very red having less than half a beer!)


and is there anybody else tried that method?? and did it work??


THANKS GUYS!!

i tried the Jarrows NAC Sustain thing last week. took 3 pill about an hour before drinking.i was drinking spirit and beer for 2-3 hrs. But it didnt seem to work at all :( i might give it another goal tho but wont get my hopes up at all...

hi everyone Im 100% chinese and am also stuff this deadly asian flush! since im in Australia i cant get hold onto this Pepic stuff but taking 2 Zantac pills seem to work okay! but im worry that i will build up my tolerance over a long period time but that it might not be healthy to my body. so i sometimes try to take only 1 zantac to see if it works. Well, last time i tried it worked! but i remember most of the time it doesnt! i have been reading this thread and some suggest that zantac claratyne combination work (for some). since i want to cut down the zantac pills that i use (i only want to use 1 zantac pill), i just bought some claratyne from the chemist (but its pretty expensive! 10 pills for $12aus bucks!). is it 'healthier' to take 1 zantac and 1 claratyne? or is it the same just to take 2 zantac? coz its a pretty pricy approach to take both zantac and claratyne! and is the zantac n clara combo stronger than 2 zantac?? coz i dun want to take anything that is unnesscarily stronger if 2 zantac works already. THANKS**

this NAC method seems to work for some of you guys. I just ordered some online (im in Australia and the custom here is fairly strict I hope this NAC jarrows stuff can get pass quarantine!) I have been using Zantac in the past year but im always paranoid about the side effects might have on me in a long run. It works great when i take 2 pills about 30hr before drinking but I always want to take a more nature approach. Will definitely let you guys know how i go. PS: is this Jarrow's NAC Sustain made of nature ingredients? is it just like a supplements to ur body therefore its safe to take in a long run?
THANKS!