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Dear Apple, please retire Numbers

:: Thursday, February 24th, 2011 @ 12:28:59 pm

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I don’t know why Apple doesn’t just retire Numbers. It is so clunky!

| Mountain View, CA | link | trackback | Feb 24, 2011 12:28:59
  • Larry

    Numbers is perfect for my needs. I hope they don’t take your suggestion to retire it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_633ZVH2TR53YL5ZGIDYN5YKZGU Jerry

    I’ve never understood this, even back into the early 90′s when people would complain about this. I have to ask, just what is it you’re doing that requires a spreadsheet with MORE than 256 columns?!? And why are you trying to use an entry level spreadsheet app to do it?

    Personally, I love Numbers and would hate to see it go!

    P.S. Excel has to be the worst spreadsheet program ever written and never was best-in-class, only, the last-man-standing.

  • http://echeng.com/ Eric Cheng

    You’re totally right. I suppose I was thinking about Numbers as just an app, and not an “entry level app.” i just find it to be incredibly clunky. I prefer using Google spreadsheets to using Numbers. It isn’t necessarily better, but you get collaboration for free. (incidentally, it failed to import my gigantic spreadsheet as well).

  • http://echeng.com/ Eric Cheng

    I think you’re safe. I doubt they are even reading this, much less taking it seriously. :)

  • Tim Priest

    Dear Eric.

    What a dolt!

  • http://echeng.com/ Eric Cheng

    Constructive.

  • Dork

    Please retire this blog. So you personally find no use for it and therefore, the entire Apple user base couldn’t possibly find it useful? I have no idea why the average user at home would need more than 255 columns.

  • Ronin33

    It’s because you’re trying to import a POS excel file. Just don’t use excel and Numbers will be great!

  • Viswakarma100

    Numbers is far better than Excel or its imitators. I use it daily. The problem seems to be for those used to Microsoft’s klutzy Excel Use Interface based spread sheet metaphor.

    Numbers has an extremely clean user interface and works the way normal people work with individual tables and linked tables.

    Numbers will evolve to support bigger tables. Though I don’t see why a normal user will need more than 255 columns per table.

    As far as the “Import Warning” is concerned, I am not sure where the data is being imported. If it is from Excel, the problem is Microsoft has its own OOXML that does not conform to the standard XML coding. This causes more trouble. Please look at the following website for more information on how defective OOXML is –

    http://ooxmlisdefectivebydesign.blogspot.com/

  • Wendy Tarson

    Numbers is a consumer spreadsheet product. It’s biggest failing for business use, aside from the example demonstrated above, is its lack of automation. It has only limited AppleScript support, with a scripting terminology too narrow to be used in a professional environment.

  • Viswakarma100

    What do you mean by business use? Does this mean the use of a spreadsheet application as a large green field to do anything and everything with data, and make the troubleshooting the application very time consuming, when relational, object-relational, and object databases are available to develop and implement more elegant, robust and error-free applications?

  • Wendy Tarson

    “Relational, object-relational, and object databases” may be available but often aren’t used, and instead the various “local” groups within large companies rely on tools they have at hand that can be managed by non-programmers — namely Excel, etc. Spreadsheets may not be the best tool, but they remain the most used tool and are the life blood of the finance and business planning teams within companies. To these groups, user-created automation is one powerful tool they have to reduce complexity and time required to produce product. Again, in that regard, Numbers is not a viable option. Perhaps if Apple upgraded the scripting support, it could become an alternative.

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