Comments on: Why I am switching to Lightroom from Aperture 2 http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/ Eric Cheng's Journal Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:44:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Colin Purrington http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3202885 Colin Purrington Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:33:22 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3202885 <p>Have been using Aperture for a long time but have all of the above problems, and more. Thanks for such a great post. I'm currently seeing whether importing a corrupted Aperture database into Lightroom can resurrect tens of thousands of lost photographs.</p> Have been using Aperture for a long time but have all of the above problems, and more. Thanks for such a great post. I'm currently seeing whether importing a corrupted Aperture database into Lightroom can resurrect tens of thousands of lost photographs.

]]> By: Inside Lightroom » Blog Archive » ‘The Gloves are Off?’ redux http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3176723 Inside Lightroom » Blog Archive » ‘The Gloves are Off?’ redux Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:05:42 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3176723 <p>[...] McCormark writes The Gloves are Off? on his blog which comments on the Lightroom -v- Aperture debate, which has begun again with the release of Aperture [...]</p> [...] McCormark writes The Gloves are Off? on his blog which comments on the Lightroom -v- Aperture debate, which has begun again with the release of Aperture [...]

]]> By: Jon in Boulder http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3160128 Jon in Boulder Sun, 17 Jan 2010 03:28:18 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3160128 <p>I just returned from 2.5 weeks in Africa to discover that Aperture somehow failed to connect with two projects (2 days of an 11 day wildlife viewing safari). I get "unsupported image" even though the metadata is there and the aperture library has not lost any gigs. Thats about 500 to 1000 images. Very painful. New work flow of saving RAW data first before import.</p> <p>Also Aperture 2 was also failing to import from 8 gig card consistently dropping images. This I usually caught and fixed.</p> <p>Very disappointing. For shame.</p> <p>Jon</p> I just returned from 2.5 weeks in Africa to discover that Aperture somehow failed to connect with two projects (2 days of an 11 day wildlife viewing safari). I get “unsupported image” even though the metadata is there and the aperture library has not lost any gigs. Thats about 500 to 1000 images. Very painful. New work flow of saving RAW data first before import.

Also Aperture 2 was also failing to import from 8 gig card consistently dropping images. This I usually caught and fixed.

Very disappointing. For shame.

Jon

]]> By: Kevin Binnie http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3144733 Kevin Binnie Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:18:16 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3144733 <p>Eric, Now that you have been using Lightroom for a while, how do you find the performance? I always found it to be incredibly slow. I am using a PC-based laptop using Windows XP. Another issue I found is that when i tried to use an external monitor, all of my images dimmed to the point where some were unviewable (if that's a word). It still does the same thing today. Fortunately, i only have 100 G or so of photos, but I am thinking of going the other way.</p> <p>Kevin</p> Eric, Now that you have been using Lightroom for a while, how do you find the performance? I always found it to be incredibly slow. I am using a PC-based laptop using Windows XP. Another issue I found is that when i tried to use an external monitor, all of my images dimmed to the point where some were unviewable (if that’s a word). It still does the same thing today. Fortunately, i only have 100 G or so of photos, but I am thinking of going the other way.

Kevin

]]> By: Thomas http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3144714 Thomas Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:01:03 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3144714 <p>Hello Eric,</p> <p>I have a problem too. But here the metadata in the library is overwritten by the metadata of the master and not the thumbnails. This happens when Aperture is rebuilding the thumbnails. I work with referenced masters, first on a NAS, now on my Macbook Pro. But only the IPTC metadata will be overwritten, not the keywords. If there will be no solution soon I have to switch too.</p> <p>Thomas from Germany</p> Hello Eric,

I have a problem too. But here the metadata in the library is overwritten by the metadata of the master and not the thumbnails. This happens when Aperture is rebuilding the thumbnails. I work with referenced masters, first on a NAS, now on my Macbook Pro. But only the IPTC metadata will be overwritten, not the keywords. If there will be no solution soon I have to switch too.

Thomas from Germany

]]> By: David http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3143688 David Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:06:42 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3143688 <p>Eric--</p> <p>I literally know NOTHING about Aperture (or Lightbox, for that matter), but stumbled on your page when someone mentioned the two to me today. I can feel your pain about re-cataloging your huge photo collection. I wonder whether you couldn't pull your metadata out of the SQLite database directly and port it into a format that Lightbox could read? Just trying to help out...</p> <p>David</p> Eric–

I literally know NOTHING about Aperture (or Lightbox, for that matter), but stumbled on your page when someone mentioned the two to me today. I can feel your pain about re-cataloging your huge photo collection. I wonder whether you couldn’t pull your metadata out of the SQLite database directly and port it into a format that Lightbox could read? Just trying to help out…

David

]]> By: nai http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3143631 nai Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:40:19 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3143631 <p>I'm bittersweetly relieved that I'm not the only one having this issue. Today Aperture "lost" a bunch of images again - saying they were referenced when <em>I don't use Referenced Images!!</em>.</p> <p>And to top it off, the images actually <em>do</em> exist in the managed file (at least, most of them do). They are sitting where they are supposed to be, but Aperture can't find them and I can't even reimport them.</p> <p>Today was the last straw. I'm done with Aperture, as much as I like the interface it should be able to keep track of my files. Period.</p> <p>I don't care what Aperture 3 is. Lightroom is my new photo home, since I don't hear <em>anyone</em> complaining about file management and database corruption.</p> I’m bittersweetly relieved that I’m not the only one having this issue. Today Aperture “lost” a bunch of images again – saying they were referenced when I don’t use Referenced Images!!.

And to top it off, the images actually do exist in the managed file (at least, most of them do). They are sitting where they are supposed to be, but Aperture can’t find them and I can’t even reimport them.

Today was the last straw. I’m done with Aperture, as much as I like the interface it should be able to keep track of my files. Period.

I don’t care what Aperture 3 is. Lightroom is my new photo home, since I don’t hear anyone complaining about file management and database corruption.

]]> By: Matt http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3142275 Matt Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:47:36 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3142275 <p>I had the same issue losing all my keywords when I moved to a new hard drive.(Ap 1.5) Since then I have stopped using aperture for keywords as it is not something I ever want to have to redo from scratch... I presently comparing lightroom as I need a faster application for travel with a laptop, also looking at photomechanic.</p> I had the same issue losing all my keywords when I moved to a new hard drive.(Ap 1.5) Since then I have stopped using aperture for keywords as it is not something I ever want to have to redo from scratch… I presently comparing lightroom as I need a faster application for travel with a laptop, also looking at photomechanic.

]]> By: Jan Florian Maas http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3139391 Jan Florian Maas Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:07:01 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3139391 <p>Hi Eric,</p> <p>it seems to me that you may need some help in getting all of your metadata out of Aperture. We've worked on this with big Libraries, up to 1.2 mio images and spent a lot of work for getting Metadata, Keywords (hierarchically) and additional Metadata fields into FileMaker and back again into Aperture. If you need help, feel free to contact me.</p> <p>Most of all experienced problems with bigger Libraries came from "hick-ups" in the Keyword part of the database and from cumulating errors within the Library structure. Not all of them can be repaired by Aperture itself. With some help from AppleScript, some of these problems can be solved, when errors have occurred.</p> <p>From my point of view it's a good idea to reduce the number of keywords by writing most of the needed information into IPTC fields or Other Metadata fields. This can be done by smart AppleScripts. Smart Albums are also working fine with searches in Metadata fields.</p> <p>We also wrote an Aperture Helper in Cocoa, to do batch import and batch export. Still now it's more an ugly technology preview, but it works. It helps a lot, when working with Project Templates. But, of course, we are still awaiting Aperture 3…</p> <p>Cheers, Jan</p> Hi Eric,

it seems to me that you may need some help in getting all of your metadata out of Aperture. We’ve worked on this with big Libraries, up to 1.2 mio images and spent a lot of work for getting Metadata, Keywords (hierarchically) and additional Metadata fields into FileMaker and back again into Aperture. If you need help, feel free to contact me.

Most of all experienced problems with bigger Libraries came from “hick-ups” in the Keyword part of the database and from cumulating errors within the Library structure. Not all of them can be repaired by Aperture itself. With some help from AppleScript, some of these problems can be solved, when errors have occurred.

From my point of view it’s a good idea to reduce the number of keywords by writing most of the needed information into IPTC fields or Other Metadata fields. This can be done by smart AppleScripts. Smart Albums are also working fine with searches in Metadata fields.

We also wrote an Aperture Helper in Cocoa, to do batch import and batch export. Still now it’s more an ugly technology preview, but it works. It helps a lot, when working with Project Templates. But, of course, we are still awaiting Aperture 3…

Cheers, Jan

]]> By: John http://echeng.com/journal/2009/10/31/why-i-am-switching-to-lightroom-from-aperture-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3137756 John Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:45:11 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/?p=3258#comment-3137756 <p>Have you thought about converting your files to DNG so info stays with the images?</p> Have you thought about converting your files to DNG so info stays with the images?

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