Comments on: Katmai grizzly bear hunting video http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/ Eric Cheng's Journal Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:53:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mark http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3142272 Mark Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:03:49 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-3142272 <p>Disgraceful. That is not hunting... that's flat out unethical and disgusting.</p> Disgraceful. That is not hunting… that’s flat out unethical and disgusting.

]]> By: Bear Hunter http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1132352 Bear Hunter Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:26:08 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-1132352 <p>cruel unethical and inhumane. All you tree huggers are the same. Screw off!!!</p> cruel unethical and inhumane. All you tree huggers are the same. Screw off!!!

]]> By: Dave http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-796761 Dave Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:30:47 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-796761 <p>Hey Ric- Yep, murder sounds appropriate. And my a$$ can cash this check</p> Hey Ric- Yep, murder sounds appropriate. And my a$$ can cash this check

]]> By: Bob Jackson http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-740365 Bob Jackson Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:13:51 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-740365 <p>Alaska public radio did a piece on the bear hunt out on Katmai. go to www.akradio.org/archive and click "Mixed Signals" 11-24-2007 segment then scroll to the (7) minute mark, thats where the story begins. It was an excellent piece that included input from a number of people ie:bear biologists, biologist from the Aaska F&G and even a trophy hunter and all feel unanimous that the hunt was extremely unethical and in fact it was't hunting but killing or harvesting bears and an immoral unethical act. Also go to www.myspace.com there are several sites asking for support to get this stopped.</p> Alaska public radio did a piece on the bear hunt out on Katmai. go to http://www.akradio.org/archive and click “Mixed Signals” 11-24-2007 segment then scroll to the (7) minute mark, thats where the story begins. It was an excellent piece that included input from a number of people ie:bear biologists, biologist from the Aaska F&G and even a trophy hunter and all feel unanimous that the hunt was extremely unethical and in fact it was’t hunting but killing or harvesting bears and an immoral unethical act. Also go to http://www.myspace.com there are several sites asking for support to get this stopped.

]]> By: Bob Jackson http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-735904 Bob Jackson Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:34:00 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-735904 <p>I am not a hunter, however I know many who are. I will not even beging to associate with a trophy hunter. The hunters I know and associate with are smart and skilled. They hunt with ethical and moral character, eating only what the kill or donating their meat. I certainly understand and epathise with Al Vinjamur's anger and disgust at what the people from TrueNorth outfitters and other outfitters did to the bears out on Katmai. I won't call all hunters spineless cowards just the group slaughtering the bears at point blank. To Ric, this issue isn't even remotely about animal population management or unhealthy bruins; it's about simply having enough moral fiber and humanity not to go into a deffensless group of animals still feeding in the streams and slaughter them point blank. The hunters and outfitters will always try to use the same old tired trumph card that we need to control bear populations as long as it allows them free will to shoot an animal under any condition. Most of those angered by this rediculous spectical out on Katmai are not asking for bear hunting to be stopped all together , just in this part of the preserve. I have studied the populations of bears over the last 8 years, I'm sorry to say they're dropping steadily. The last two years over several trips for extended stays, we did not see many large males. That's why you see the hunters in the video and still photos shooting the young females. Thats the WHOLE truth.</p> I am not a hunter, however I know many who are. I will not even beging to associate with a trophy hunter. The hunters I know and associate with are smart and skilled. They hunt with ethical and moral character, eating only what the kill or donating their meat. I certainly understand and epathise with Al Vinjamur’s anger and disgust at what the people from TrueNorth outfitters and other outfitters did to the bears out on Katmai. I won’t call all hunters spineless cowards just the group slaughtering the bears at point blank. To Ric, this issue isn’t even remotely about animal population management or unhealthy bruins; it’s about simply having enough moral fiber and humanity not to go into a deffensless group of animals still feeding in the streams and slaughter them point blank. The hunters and outfitters will always try to use the same old tired trumph card that we need to control bear populations as long as it allows them free will to shoot an animal under any condition. Most of those angered by this rediculous spectical out on Katmai are not asking for bear hunting to be stopped all together , just in this part of the preserve. I have studied the populations of bears over the last 8 years, I’m sorry to say they’re dropping steadily. The last two years over several trips for extended stays, we did not see many large males. That’s why you see the hunters in the video and still photos shooting the young females. Thats the WHOLE truth.

]]> By: Bob Jackson http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-722060 Bob Jackson Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:14:20 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-722060 <p>I too feel that what the so called big game hunters were doing was simply walking up to an animal unabated and shooting it point blank. It's very big buisness for outfitters like Jim Hamilton from Kodiac and as you saw extremely easy money for very little work. The hunters and their outfitters are more upset about the filming because now they can't go back and tell everyone about how they walked in the bush for days to track this bear before finally outwitting it!!! The video and still photographs by Scott Dickerson tell the real truth!! The things you can do to bring this nonsense called hunting bears to a hault are: Send an email to your local Congressman to protest the bear hunt on Katmai National Preserve GMU 9C 703. contact every man, women and child you can and pass onto them the video links and the links to Scott Dickerson's photos and ask them to send a letter to their local Congressman. You can see Scott Dickerson's photos by Googleing "Katmai Bear Hunt Photos" Write Alaska's Gonernor Sarah Palin and protest this bear hunt. I applaud you Eric, Danial Zats, Scott Dickerson and the Days for your corageous efforts to bring this story to the front.</p> I too feel that what the so called big game hunters were doing was simply walking up to an animal unabated and shooting it point blank. It’s very big buisness for outfitters like Jim Hamilton from Kodiac and as you saw extremely easy money for very little work. The hunters and their outfitters are more upset about the filming because now they can’t go back and tell everyone about how they walked in the bush for days to track this bear before finally outwitting it!!! The video and still photographs by Scott Dickerson tell the real truth!! The things you can do to bring this nonsense called hunting bears to a hault are: Send an email to your local Congressman to protest the bear hunt on Katmai National Preserve GMU 9C 703. contact every man, women and child you can and pass onto them the video links and the links to Scott Dickerson’s photos and ask them to send a letter to their local Congressman. You can see Scott Dickerson’s photos by Googleing “Katmai Bear Hunt Photos” Write Alaska’s Gonernor Sarah Palin and protest this bear hunt. I applaud you Eric, Danial Zats, Scott Dickerson and the Days for your corageous efforts to bring this story to the front.

]]> By: Ric http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-670540 Ric Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:31:00 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-670540 <p>Well it's not a meat hunt, or subsistence hunt so it would be a sport hunting. Sport hunting meaning for sport, and since most do not consume brown bear meat only the skull and hide is salvaged how should it be classified.... murder????</p> Well it’s not a meat hunt, or subsistence hunt so it would be a sport hunting. Sport hunting meaning for sport, and since most do not consume brown bear meat only the skull and hide is salvaged how should it be classified…. murder????

]]> By: echeng http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-668961 echeng Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:23:17 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-668961 <p>Sport hunting? What part of "sport" is involved in this style of hunting?</p> Sport hunting? What part of “sport” is involved in this style of hunting?

]]> By: Ric http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-668840 Ric Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:13:31 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-668840 <p>The only thing unethical in this entire episode is the behavior by channel 2 news, and their entourage. Yes killing brown bears is sport hunting, however mismanged bear populations are extremely unhealthy to bruins. It is not a suprise to come across a website like this that is completely one sided but really if you want to tell a story tell the hole story. And to Al Vinjamur I wouldn't let your mouth right checks that you're a$$ can't cash.</p> The only thing unethical in this entire episode is the behavior by channel 2 news, and their entourage. Yes killing brown bears is sport hunting, however mismanged bear populations are extremely unhealthy to bruins. It is not a suprise to come across a website like this that is completely one sided but really if you want to tell a story tell the hole story. And to Al Vinjamur I wouldn’t let your mouth right checks that you’re a$$ can’t cash.

]]> By: Ted http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/comment-page-1/#comment-599090 Ted Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:00:06 +0000 http://echeng.com/journal/2007/10/15/katmai-grizzly-bear-hunting-video/#comment-599090 <p>what... the... hell?</p> <p>Man these people just kill for the sake of killing something! Those bears certainly do not look threatening, threatening livestock [not that is a good excuse either], or possesses the intent to kill people. But they just shoot and kill them for their hide! This is just as bad as Shark hunting!</p> what… the… hell?

Man these people just kill for the sake of killing something! Those bears certainly do not look threatening, threatening livestock [not that is a good excuse either], or possesses the intent to kill people. But they just shoot and kill them for their hide! This is just as bad as Shark hunting!

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