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Sony PCG-TR1A and Windows XP Professional

:: Tuesday, July 29th, 2003 @ 5:23:46 pm

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I’m selling my Thinkpad A31. Anyone want to buy it? It’s an amazing system, but it’s heavy. P4 1.8GHz, a really sharp, bright 1400×1050 screen, 40GB HD, Windows XP, DVD/CD-RW, 802.11b, extra battery. E-mail me.

For a replacement travel machine, I got a Sony PCG-TR1A (like the PCG-TR1AP, but with XP Home instead of XP Professional), which is gorgeous. But I bought the TR1A and not the TR1AP (cheaper!), and installed Windows XP Professional on it myself. All of the drivers on the web site work fine with it (despite what they will tell you if you call support), but the included Application Recovery CDs barf when you try to run them. I tried to get a replacement set for XP, and was denied. Support told me that the TR1AP doesn’t run XP Pro, but they’re stupid, because it says that it does right there on the Sony website. Instead of complaining, I hung up. By the way, Sony support’s voice recognition system is amazing. Fast, and accurate. I almost wanted to talk to it more than I did the woman who picked up afterward. (Although, John Adams tells me that it does not understand British accents).

So… here how you get the bundled Sony Applications installed with XP Pro (some of which are important for setting your computer up). I hope search engines find this so people don’t have to go through the Sony support black-hole.

1) Install XP Pro and use the drivers in the “drivers” directory on either the System or Application Recovery Disc 1 (can’t remember which one). If you can’t find them, you can grab them off of Sony’s support site.

2) After installation, the device manager will still complain about the “USB Controller” device. Uninstall it. It will install itself correctly when you reboot.

3) Let the Application Recovery Disc 1 autorun. It will complain, and die, but it will leave a directory called “ucd” on drive C:. Run c:\ucd\SonyInstall.exe, and the app installer will load up without complaining!

So there you go. Why can’t Sony be like normal computer vendors and give out installers of their software in a form that plays nicely? Argh.

UPDATE

After the applications and drivers were installed, I started getting “CRTCClient” errors upon shutting down. Furthermore, I was unable to run certain installers (like Adobe Photoshop, for example). I did a google search and found this site, which said that it was likely a display driver problem (even though that particular page is about Windows ME). So I uninstalled my display drivers (two identical display devices were listed in the devices screen, for some reason) and restarted. Upon restart, XP found the device again, reinstalled the drivers, and everything has been fine since!

UPDATE

You can use a utility called kcap.exe (do a google search to find it) to extract the utilities on the Sony CD. Once the shared libraries are installed, you can install everything else.

To get the camera to work, go to Device Manager and scroll to the bottom. Expand the Universal Serial Bus controllers, and click on properties for the USB Root Hub that matches your camera (mine was the third one down). Go to the Power Management tab and uncheck “Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power.” Restart, and it should work, assuming you have installed the drivers. (Thanks to John Adams for this tip!)



Sony’s original response:

—–Original Message—–
From: SOS [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: PCG-TR1A (KMM11779284I21924L0KM)

Eric Cheng,

Thank you for contacting SONY Online Support.

SONY does not offer an operating system upgrade program for systems pre-installed with Windows XP Home edition to the XP Professional edition. However, should you choose to purchase the retail version of Windows XP Professional, you will be able to access your original SONY Application Recovery CDs and Driver Recovery CDs to reinstall the bundled SONY software applications and device drivers.

Due to the common core between the XP Home and XP Professional editions, the same software applications and device drivers will work under both versions. SONY will continue to provide full support for our pre-installed software applications and device drivers; however, support the XP Professional operating system itself must be obtained through Microsoft.

*****NOTE: When a clean install of Windows XP Pro is installed on the computer, all the drivers from the DRCD including the Sony Shared Library must be installed before the ARCD can be accessed.



So, it appears that I needed some drivers, first. However, the interface to those drivers is ON the stupid Application Recovery CD. And nowhere in the included CDs do I see a “Driver Recovery CD.”

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  • http://www.ihatepink.com pinkhatei

    hahahahah! i love your graphic descriptiong of barfing CDs. conjures up sweet images in my head. :)

  • bjw

    Another way to get the Application CD to work under XP Pro is to install the Sony Shared Libraries in the SonySL directory on that CD. After that, the ARCD works fine

  • http://www.johnmcmillion.com John McMillion

    Thank you for your article, I experienced the same exact situation, point by point. I wasn’t able to get my apps off the cd from what you mentioned, but I found a solution of unpacking them by this little sony app, kcap. Here is a link on how to do it, http://myplc.com/sony/sony_apps.htm

    I also am getting the USB Controller problem, but my system can’t find the driver for it on the hd or cd, even after trying to uninstall it more than once. =) SP1 has it in there, but SP1 breaks the camera functionality. Any ideas on getting that USB controller up, what are the details in Device Manager if I try to pick it from the list to install manually?

    Thanks for the great info,

    John

  • Tom

    Great info here. Followed the instructions and it worked like a charm. FYI…found via Google search.

    Thanks

  • echeng

    I want to upgrade my RAM from 512MB to 1GB, but I don’t want to pay $499 to do it through Sony. I found TR1 specs somewhere on the web that say that TR1 takes PC2100 DDR SDRAM, so I am guessing that a PC2100 512MB SODIMM will fit — and cost almost $300 less. Anyone out there upgrade RAM successfully? The Sony website and the manual that came with the computer both do not specify what kind of RAM to use.

  • Vassi

    hi, i just try to install the notebook control driver, but it allways sais, not for your model. how can i install it? i lost my recovery CD and now i installed xp professional. please help. without tht control drivers i am lost.

  • http://analogue.net jba

    eric, thanks for the great info – i was dumb enough to format my machine w/o researching it. I ended up purchasing the sony recovery DVD, which worked flawlessly (except for the camera tip). It cost me $30 including next-day shipping – not too bad, but really-f*cking-annoying. Link is here: http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/web/index.jsp

    Cheers, -jba

  • tom

    i am having a similar problme when i installed xp-pro on the new vaio A190 .. ie keep getting crctcleint error and system hangs on log out. will try reinstalling the video driver .. but has anyone had this problem with the VGN-A190

    thanks

  • http://www.247it.net guest

    Thank God I found this page !

    Whenever I finally surmount the impossible task I always try to post it somewhere detailing the issues and fix. I would like to thank Eric for doing the same and in such great detail.

    Issue; Replace failed h/drive on a Sony Vaio PCG-TR1MP.

    Physically it was a simple task, took all of 30mins afer obtaining the correct drive, a supplier had his part No: tables WRONG and I ordered one of those ultra slim 1.8″ drives. Just got the replacement Hitachi drive but had to settle for a 20Gb version (losing 10Gb in the process but the need to get this running is very urgent).

    I have pics and instructions if anyone requires them, email me on b i l l @ 2 4 7 i t . n e t

    Luckily the “failed” drive is accessible and I could pull off the Drivers folder.

    On the matter of Sony Support – BUNCH of B4STARDS! they wanted E20 to report the fault (just out of the PATHETIC 1yr warranty), then wanted to transport the machine back for an engineer repair all at my expense. I pointed out there was nothing wrong with the machine (after replacing the h/drive) but I was unable to use the recovery CDRom which just keeps re-booting. They did offer to replace the BRAND NEW – ONLY JUST OPENED IT CDRom for E80 (£55GBP) Another bloody joke.

    I will never allow any of my clients in future to purchase Sony equipment (and we have been installing some very expensive Sony tape drives) until they improve their support and stop taking the p1ss.

    Thanks again – London Bill.

  • http://www.247it.net guest

    PS: Never buy a watch belonging to the Swatch Corporation which includes some big name brands like Rado.

    They wanted £150GBP to replace the battery, telling me the watch appeared to have moisture on the inside (it is meant to be waterproof to 30m). I demanded they send it back to me. I got a replacement batery from Maplin cost £0.99GBP and did it myself. The watch works perfect and still appears to be watertight !

  • http://www.247it.net guest

    Sorry, that was me Re; Swatch/Rado.

    London Bill.

  • Pingback: Wanted : Sony Vaio PCG-TR1MP device drivers for Windows XP Pro help required :) - AVForums.com

  • http://SONYVAIOVGN.NET Sony Vaio Mini laptop

    Nice site. I like its contents and also I think that now Sony PCG-TR1A should adopt windows7/vista. Thanks for it.

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